From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Fri Dec 14 2007 - 15:01:21 ART
Or you could just not bother doing a bootcamp.
They cost a pretty penny, and lots and lots of people have passed and
continue to pass the CCIE without them. Many more take bootcamps and don't
pass. A lot of folks I have run into took them as a 'comfort' thing but
either didn't really need it or were unprepared for it.
The instructors are great but they can't pass it for you. If someone else is
springing for the class, go. If you are paying for it be sure to pay
attention in class and come prepared!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Santi" <ccnp@texas.net>
To: "'Amiri Gonzalez'" <amiri.gonzalez@gmail.com>; <cisco@groupstudy.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: Yes or No to CCIE bootcamp? [7:128705]
> There are really only three you should consider. Narbik Kocharians is
> simply the best out there.
> Netmasters or IE as a second choice. I would prefer Netmaster over IE. I
> have taken classes from all
> three. Narbik is the way to go, if you can make it. The guy is like a
> freakin Rainman of the CCIE R&S.
> Bruce and Val, from NetMasters, approach the CCIE like scientists.
>
> I have heard good things about Scott Morris, but I don't have any
> experience
> with his material or class.
>
> My two cents
>
> Santi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Amiri Gonzalez
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:44 AM
> To: cisco@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Yes or No to CCIE bootcamp? [7:128705]
>
> I am just curious about a couple of courses that are being offered by
> 2 different companies for CCIE training bootcamps.
>
> 1. www.netmasterclass.net: This one seem reputable considering the
> course is taught by Bruce Caslow and Val Pavlichenko as most of us
> know already.
>
>
>
> 2. www.xctrain.com/ is another one that I just recently found. I am a
> little skeptical because they actually give statistics on how many
> people have passed the CCIE. Netmasters mentioned that they can not
> give you a real accurate answer considering you can't force everybody
> to call back and let them know. When I see stats, I tend to cringe a
> little because it just seems like marketing material. What I do like
> about it is that it's not a one week cram session as much as this is
> once a week for 10 weeks.
>
> If anybody has any information on this, I would greatly appreciate it.
> Clearly the answer to passing the CCIE is hard work and your own
> personal drive with a heart on passing, not the course itself. I am
> not looking for a silver bullet but a course that is definitely in the
> right direction. To spend that kind of money, even if it is company
> sponsered, is absurd to me.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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