From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Dec 07 2007 - 20:35:58 ART
Sorry for the dramatics Scott.
However, if I personally does not think it matters if
those ports are open or closed and if you, my friend,
do not realize that, maybe you ought to add a switch
to you lab and see for yourself. Else the lab may be
too out of reach for you too. :)
Nice try at a stab though... try again.
Seriously it does not matter. We all know that the
labs are what they are.
The items they want us to configure they tell us. The
setup is staged to be taken up and put down quickly
enough (Every Trainer does the same for their own
staging). If there is an error a seasoned candidate
ought to be able to know quickly enough - without
shutting down unused ports or not doing so.
With that said... as I once heard a proctor say, and
sadly have seen a few too many times. A lot of
candidates come to the lab and cannot even
troubleshoot Frame Relay connectivity correctly.
VTP kicks others to the curb. It's the damnedest
thing when you config a server and then config the
switch that has to be the server and watch as your
VLANs get over-written... Revision can be a pitiful
thing to lose time on in the lab.
Hmmm....
Now if I brought my assumptions with me to the lab and
automatically shut everything down... No biggie, but
then, I might have to bring them up less I get tasked
to do something on one of those ports...
And you know it might sound strange to you, but many
lab candidates seem to have an issue with, um what's
it called again... oy yes, time management.
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid is not bad for most
folks - especially in the lab.
Myself, I've been on the merry go round a time or two
and I know what I did and failed to do properly.
Maybe you'll fare well and pass on the first try. You
use this list often enough.
Good Luck...
--- Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>
wrote:
> I think this is sage advice Brian. Following a
> recent post by Con Spathas,
> I was thinking that starting off with a 'copy run
> flash:initial-config' (or
> similar) would be the path of least resistance.
> Then you can do a 'more
> flash:initial-config' to read it directly on the
> CLI. I think also that
> logging function sounds like a really good idea.
> Could be useful if I get
> near the end of the day and discover that I flubbed
> something up and need to
> figure it out fast.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Brian McGahan
> [mailto:bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 3:36 PM
> To: Scott Vermillion
> Cc: 'Darby Weaver'; 'Anthony Sequeira'; 'Gary
> Duncanson'; 'Ranjith Samuel';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Shutting unused interface CCIE lab
>
>
>
> Before doing this you may consider taking a snapshot
> of the initial configs.
> In the lab you'll have access to windows notepad,
> and (IIRC) can use the log
> to file function of securecrt. This way if you need
> to reference the
> original state of anything, IP address, interface
> states, etc. you can just
> refer to your log file.
>
> HTH!!!!
>
> ;)
>
> --
>
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
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> Scott Vermillion wrote:
>
> Darby,
>
> I personally think you're being a bit overly
> dramatic here (shocking, I
> know). If you can't handle something as simple as
> having the correct ports
> in the correct state when you walk out the door, you
> didn't belong in the
> lab to begin with.
>
> This is a simple matter. It's personal preference.
> I plan to shut all the
> ports on all the switches when I start the lab.
> Just like I do in practice.
> If I fail, it surely won't be because of anything
> related to this.
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darby Weaver [mailto:darbyweaver@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 4:36 AM
> To: Anthony Sequeira; Scott Vermillion; Gary
> Duncanson; Ranjith Samuel
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Shutting unused interface CCIE lab
>
>
> Let me see what is one of the single biggest
> problems
> for lab candidates...
>
> Bringing assumptions to the lab.
>
> If it ain't explicitly asked for, then it might
> cause
> you more harm than good.
>
> But hey, it's your $1400.00 if you want to throw it
> away and use it for a practice lab you can do that
> to.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Anthony Sequeira
> <mailto:Anthony_Sequeira@skillsoft.com>
> <Anthony_Sequeira@skillsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I am not shutting down a darn thing unless a task
> explicitly or
> implicitly requires it!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> In fact this is my rule for anything I go to do at
> that keyboard in the
> lab!
>
> The only thing I can recall doing that they did not
> ask me to was a full
> connectivity test (TCL Script) and other necessary
> verifications. Notice
> that these verifications do not actually change
> anything!
>
> Anthony J. Sequeira
> #15626
> Recert? No Problem!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Vermillion
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:44 PM
> To: 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Ranjith Samuel'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Shutting unused interface CCIE lab
>
> We had this discussion just this week. I offered
> that I like to shut
> everything down using the interface range command
> and then enable things
> individually as I configure/verify. It occurred to
> me yesterday as I
> was
> starting a new lab that the other advantage this has
> is ensuring that
> you
> don't forget to shut your physical ports when doing
> PortChannels.
>
> At the end of the day, it's not a big overall impact
> one way or the
> other.
> Just pick an approach you're comfortable with and
> stick with it
> always...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Gary
> Duncanson
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:33 PM
> To: Ranjith Samuel
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Shutting unused interface CCIE lab
>
> Well I think if the port is 'unused' in it's purest
> sense then it's
> probably
> shutdown anyway to be fair.
>
> Main thing is of course to follow requirements but
> also to apply common
> sense
> as well as best practice. If making sure an
> interface is shut down helps
> you
> out then I would say do it. Just makes sure you
> don't break something
> you
> need!
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ranjith Samuel
> To: Gary Duncanson ; uyota oyearone
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:10 AM
> Subject: RE: Shutting unused interface CCIE lab
>
>
>
> I think you will be wasting your time doing this.
> On the contrary ,
> you
> might have to unshut some ports to get your topology
> working. My advice
> is
> not
> to spend time doing tasks that are not required in
> the exam because you
> will
> need every minute of it. No marks for perfection!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> ----
> -
> -
> > To: spycharlies@hotmail.com
> > CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Shutting unused interface CCIE lab
> > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:40:59 +0000
> > From: gary.duncanson@googlemail.com
> >
> > I suppose so.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "uyota oyearone"
> <mailto:spycharlies@hotmail.com>
> <spycharlies@hotmail.com>
> > To: "CCIE" <mailto:ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 10:04 PM
> > Subject: Shutting unused interface CCIE lab
> >
> >
> > > Hi Group,
> > >
> > > While studying for my lab, i always have an
> habit of shutting down
> unused
> > > interface so they do not trunk dynamically.
> > >
> > > Is this advisable in the actual CCIE lab ?
> > >
> > > cheers :-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
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