Re: OT - SP and ATM

From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Fri Dec 07 2007 - 08:14:42 ART


Hi Roman

The back to back router thing instead of using an ATM switch? I recall that
mentioned in archives some years ago. The cost of ATM switches was
prohibitive back then for R&S studies.

Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roman Rodichev" <roman@iementor.com>
To: "'Mohamed, Liban [NTK]'" <Liban.Mohamed@sprint.com>; "'Tarun Pahuja'"
<pahujat@gmail.com>; "'Gary Duncanson'" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
Cc: <sheherezada@gmail.com>; <swm@emanon.com>; "'Narbik Kocharians'"
<narbikk@gmail.com>; "'Brad Ellis'" <brad@ccbootcamp.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 4:16 AM
Subject: RE: OT - SP and ATM

> You don't need ATM switches for studying SP. In the future, you won't need
> ATM at all, because MPLS cell-mode will surely go away. But if you are
> studying cell-mode now, because it's in the lab, practice on Dynamips. If
> you don't like Dynamips or don't have a machine to run it on, or if you
> really want to use hardware, the cheapest way to study MPLS cell-mode is
> with two 2610 routers ($50 each), two NM-1ATM-25 modules ($70 each), and
> latest 12.3 enterprise image.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Cisco-NM-1ATM-25-ATM-Network-Module-120-Day-Warranty_W0Q
> QitemZ180105495749QQihZ008QQcategoryZ67286QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewI
> tem
>
> To connect two NM-1ATM-25 modules, use regular cisco console cable
> (rollover)
>
>
>
> Roman Rodichev
> 5xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider)
> Instructor, Content Developer. ieMentor Corporation
> http://www.iementor.com
> Y!M: roman7927
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Mohamed, Liban [NTK]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:37 PM
>> To: 'Tarun Pahuja'; 'Gary Duncanson'
>> Cc: 'sheherezada@gmail.com'; 'swm@emanon.com'; 'Narbik Kocharians'; 'Brad
>> Ellis'; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
>> Subject: Re: OT - SP and ATM
>>
>> Dynamips is your solution, that is what iam using
>>
>> Sent by Good Messaging (www.good.com)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tarun Pahuja [mailto:pahujat@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 04:03 PM Central Standard Time
>> To: Gary Duncanson
>> Cc: sheherezada@gmail.com; swm@emanon.com; Narbik Kocharians; Brad
> Ellis;
>> ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: OT - SP and ATM
>>
>> Gary,
>> My suggestion would be to use online rack rentals for ATM. I used
> the
>> racks from ccbootcamp for my SP preparation and everything worked fine.
>> Check with other vendors as well to see if they have still have ATM for
>> their SP racks before renting.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Tarun
>>
>>
>> On 12/6/07, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Cool. Then my long awaited Cisco lightstream addition to my home lab
> may
>> > be useful afterall, if I can find one on UK ebay that is.... What
> modules
>> > would be useful for SP prep?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > *From:* Tarun Pahuja <pahujat@gmail.com>
>> > *To:* Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
>> > *Cc:* ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2007 4:10 PM
>> > *Subject:* Re: OT - SP and ATM
>> >
>> >
>> > Gary,
>> > MPLS without ATM can get boring ;-) Even though Gigabit Ethernet
>> > has taken off, some SP networks are still using ATM switches and
>> > running
>> > MPLS over them. MPLS certification would be incomplete with ATM.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> > Tarun
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/6/07, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Guys,
>> > >
>> > > Is ATM covered in CCIE SP? I was wondering if an ATM switch would be
>> > > useful
>> > > for a home lab and suitable specs.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > >
>> > >
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