From: Gregory Gombas (ggombas@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Dec 06 2007 - 21:51:40 ART
Have any of you consultants ever put a clause in your contract stating
client will let contractor know 30 days in advance if contract will be
extended or not? That way you know what to expect and have time to
look for another contract if they don't renew.
Thanks,
Greg
On Dec 5, 2007 11:48 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
> They way to be interview proof is the following...
>
> Know more than the person interviewing you.
>
> How do I do that?
>
> Read the recent Networkers presentations thoroughly!!!!!
>
> The best minds at Cisco obviously pour it out on there, and so much goes
> into making each one...
>
> You're virtually assured that if you know those super well you should be
> ok...
>
> Plus here is a secret-
>
> The very latest and greatest features are being sold to a technical audience
> at Networkers...
>
> I don't need to tell you who interviews who once I get to the interview....
> in about 5 minutes I can drop 20 new features they don't know that would
> help them.
>
> -J
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> darth router
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:09 PM
> To: Durkin, Michael (MED US)
>
> Cc: Ben Holko; Joseph Brunner; Dane Newman; Darby Weaver;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE typical contractor rates
>
> yea, and plus they make tips :) hehe So yea, when you are charging someone
> 200+ for a hair cut, you can do well.
>
> On 12/5/07, darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I knew a gal that made about 50k doing hair. She had all certs of hair
> > certifications. She worked at a salon, and she gets 50% of every
> procedure,
> > the salon gets the other half. So I suppose if she worked for herself and
> > could bring in her own business, she makes as much as most CCIEs :) I know
> a
> > guy who does nails. He has a mega huge house. He is doing better than me
> :P
> >
> > DR
> >
> > On 12/5/07, Durkin, Michael (MED US) <michael.durkin@siemens.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How much does it cost, and how much training does it take to cut hair?
> > > Maybe I am in the wrong line of work.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Ben Holko
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:28 PM
> > > To: Joseph Brunner; Dane Newman; Darby Weaver
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; darklordrouter@gmail.com
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE typical contractor rates
> > >
> > > > "Hire an "expert" to do your hair in NYC. You will pay more than $125
> > > per hour. Now tell me what you're network is worth."
> > >
> > > I like it a lot :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Joseph Brunner
> > > Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2007 1:05 PM
> > > To: 'Dane Newman'; 'Darby Weaver'
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com ; darklordrouter@gmail.com
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE typical contractor rates
> > >
> > > >I am from USA New york and I am thinking of putting rates at 100.00 h/r
> > > for
> > > >work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly 150 h/r depending on
> > > the
> > > >company and type of work for direct work. Are these reasonable rates?
> > >
> > > My rates exactly friend. 9/10 people just say yes. Plus Get about 25%
> > > more
> > > for O.T. Rate (after 6pm or weekends/holidays).
> > >
> > > I usually just say "I require the greater of $100 per hour or 85% of the
> > > billing rate". If they aren't billing at least $125 per hour to their
> > > client
> > > I give them my "hiring an expert" in NYC speech.
> > >
> > > "Hire an "expert" to do your hair in NYC. You will pay more than $125
> > > per
> > > hour. Now tell me what you're network is worth."
> > >
> > > Joseph "NYC"
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Dane
> > > Newman
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:10 PM
> > > To: Darby Weaver
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; darklordrouter@gmail.com
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE typical contractor rates
> > >
> > > I am getting into the consulting game also.
> > >
> > > The problem is I can consult on a bunch of different things. Anything
> > > Microsoft (active directory, exchange 2k3 and 2k7, sharepoint ect) and
> > > Citrix where the bulk of my exp lies plus Some Cisco now.
> > >
> > > Do people who are consulting charge different rates depending on the
> > > type of
> > > job they are doing? I could imagion being asked to do something as
> > > simple
> > > as patch an OS to something more technical to design and build a whole
> > > Network/Systems infrastructure.
> > >
> > > I am from USA New york and I am thinking of putting rates at 100.00 h/r
> > > for
> > > work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly 150 h/r depending on the
> > > company and type of work for direct work. Are these reasonable rates?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/5/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Darth,
> > > >
> > > > I bill about $125.00 per hour for consulting + price
> > > > of materials (up front).
> > > >
> > > > My contracts state:
> > > >
> > > > Materials due 100% at the inception of a contract.
> > > >
> > > > Expected Labor is 1/2 down on start of project and
> > > > then 1/2 at the end of project for smaller projects.
> > > >
> > > > These types of contracts usually encompass about a
> > > > $2000.00 project to about a $20,000 project. Actual
> > > > work per project is about 2 days to about 8-10 days
> > > > tops. Sometimes I spread them out a bit.
> > > >
> > > > Time and Materials for long-term projects.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I'm not a CCIE either.
> > > >
> > > > I expect your solo rates will vary as many can tell
> > > > you from this group.
> > > >
> > > > And note, I am from the famously underpaid south...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey guys/gals,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have just been getting back into the work game. I
> > > > > am curious about
> > > > > contracting. I have a steady client that pays me
> > > > > about 100 an hour for a set
> > > > > amount of hours per mo. I suppose I could probably
> > > > > get a much better rate if
> > > > > I wanted to push it. I work direct for them, and was
> > > > > not recruited through a
> > > > > recruiter. It's my first consulting gig. When you
> > > > > take jobs through
> > > > > recruiters, how much can you expect to make? How
> > > > > much do these guys make on
> > > > > top of your wage? I am not after any real specific
> > > > > answers here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Generally speaking, how much do yall bill for? Do
> > > > > you bill less if you are
> > > > > garanteed more hours, maybe even months of work?
> > > > >
> > > > > DR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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