From: Ramya S (ramya_1975@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Dec 06 2007 - 18:29:21 ART
Well a security ccie must have an understanding of the flags and not memorize
them. Then how will one operate the IDS without knowing what flags are present
and what do they do?
Ramya Sen
> From: smorris@ipexpert.com> To: ramya_1975@hotmail.com;
sheherezada@gmail.com> CC: guxiaojian@gmail.com; sohail.nedaria@gmail.com;
cciefun@gmail.com; narbikk@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: I
know this CCIE who wouldn't know a packet if it hit him in the ass! ~CCIE
Interview Qs~> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 16:17:13 -0500> > Exactly why does one
need to know the TCP flags off the top of their head?> I thought I was the
only strange person whoever cared about it to begin> with, but you think that
a security person needs to have them memorized???> > Scott > > -----Original
Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of> Ramya S> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:40 PM> To:
sheherezada@gmail.com> Cc: guxiaojian@gmail.com; sohail.nedaria@gmail.com;
cciefun@gmail.com;> narbikk@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: I
know this CCIE who wouldn't know a packet if it hit him in> the ass! ~CCIE
Interview Qs~> > Knowing whats there in a packet is not a big deal, its
fundamental. But if> one were to be a security ccie, he must know what flags
are there in a tcp> packet.> > > Ramya Sen> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec
2007 19:16:50 +0200> From: sheherezada@gmail.com> To:> tapas_75@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: I know this CCIE who wouldn't know a> packet if it hit him in the
ass! ~CCIE Interview Qs~> CC:> guxiaojian@gmail.com; sohail.nedaria@gmail.com;
cciefun@gmail.com;> narbikk@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> > I had some
interviews with> Google and some other very large employers.> They seem to
have a screening> interview with questions down to TCP> flag level, which I
didn't like too> much. From my CV, it was> obvious> that my previous jobs were
on the higher "OSI" level, like > obvious> design> for> example. I expected to
be given questions about optimization,> > for> security> and the likes, but
their questions were oriented towards> packet analysis.> So, I felt miserably.
Besides, if I want to see all> the options, I know> where to search, not to
memorize. Now I am> working for a Cisco partner and> enjoy what I am doing,
simply because> the job profile matches with my> project experience and
personal> skills, not with the TCP packet that I see> very rarely.> >> Mihai>
> On Dec 6, 2007 4:46 PM, Tapas Das <tapas_75@hotmail.com> > Mihai> > wrote:>
>> The device will see the "ether-type" to find the upper layer protocol,
and>> > will treat it accordingly... (either to route or switch)> >> > >
Date:> Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:54:32 -0800> From: guxiaojian@gmail.com> To:> >>
sohail.nedaria@gmail.com> Subject: Re: I know this CCIE who wouldn't know a>>
> packet if it hit him in the ass! ~CCIE Interview Qs~> CC:>
cciefun@gmail.com;>> > narbikk@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Sure, here
is one I > > like,> >> How> >> > does a L3 switch router know when to L2
switch an incoming > How> >> > frame> and> when to> > L3 switch an incoming
frame?> > On Dec 5, 2007 10:00 PM,> Sohail Nedaria> >
<sohail.nedaria@gmail.com> wrote:> > > Hi Guys> >> > Can> you guys provide me>
> CCIE Interview questions so i can> > also prepare my> self well before i
take> > on any interview.> >> > Thanks> > Suhail> >> CCIE#19337>> >> >> > On
12/6/07,> > ccie ccie <cciefun@gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > > >> >> > Hi,> >>
>> > > I am going off> > bit, but like to share something with you.> > > >> >
> >> > >> I gave lots of interview> > include CISCO, Google, Yahoo......no end
& i> >> gave> > > with out any> > interest to join but to test myself :). I
gave> interview> > for> > > small to> > big organization & i found you can't >
interview> > for> > > impress> the interviewer> > only> > > by> > your
techniqual knowledge.> > >> > >> Thing to impress them as per my> >
understanding are as.> > >> > > 1. Good> Techniqual Approach> > > 2. If you> >
dont know say you dont know this time,> but you will learn &> > find> > > the>
> answer.> > > 3. Good> troubleshooting approach (In network always answer
withh>> > > refrance> > >> to> > > OSI layer)> > > 4. Listen interviewer
carefully take> > own time to> think &> answer> > > 5. Never underestimate
interviewer who knows> > what the > answer> > > other> side person> > > is.> >
> 6. Respect interviwer & appreciate> > him for some> good question.> > > 7.
Before go to the interview do your study> > about the> oganization.> > > 8.
Last be not least. Give an impression that you> >> respect> the> >
organization> > > lot, you will love to work for them, you will> > the> >
organization> > > > give> longer association &> > > your> > > placement in
organization will> >> contributing lot to generate revenue.> > >> > > Dont
forget final interview> is> > always by the management people.> > >> > >> > >
Regards,> > > > is> > Mike> > >>> > >>> > > >> > > On 12/6/07, Narbik
Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> > > >>> > > >> > > wrote:> > >> >> > >> > >
Darth, Are you a CCIE? I don't see your number. But what > >> > >> > > would>
you> > hate>> > > > to> > > > be asked in the interview? that's the > you> >
hate>> > > > to> > > > question i> would ask.> > >> > > I would ask him/her
what are your weak points and what> are your strong> > >> > > points. Go from
there.> > > > Talk to him/her> about some of the problems> > that your firm
had and see> > > > what the> person responds, but don't expect> > the poor
CCIE to solve it> > for> > > >> you> > >> > in a second. But he/she> > should
have an idea as to where to look, > > from> >> > that> > > > you should know>
> the depth of his/her knowledge.> > > > > > that> > > > If you> or the
interviewer is> > experienced enough, the second this> > person> > >> > opens
his/her mouth, you> > should know the depth of his knowledge.> > >> >> >> > >
But once again, CCIEs> > are not gods, they can have a bad day as > > > well.
I>> > > > personally like to> > focus on the person's attitude and > > > >
personality,> >> > > obviously> > > > he/she> > got the CCIE cert, which means
that the > > > obviously> > > > person> either knows or> > > knew> > >> > >
the stuff and can easily pick up the> info.> > > >> > > >> > > > My 2 Cent.>>
> > > >> > > > On 12/5/07, darth> router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:> >
> >> > >> > > > > Ok guys,> > >> >> >> > > > > there was a thread a while back
talking> > about dumbass > >> > > > > CCIE's. As> I> > > > prefer> > > > > not
to be the dumbest CCIE> > on the planet, > I> > > > prefer> > > > > help me>
out with questions> > > > that> > > > > you might ask a> > CCIE candidate in>
an interview. I have had some> > brutal> > > > > interviews> > since I> became
IE. Honestly the questions seem a bit> > basic> > > so> > > > >> >> far, but I
have had some really in depth questions about> > >> spanning-tree,>> > > > > >
troubleshootin real world EIGRP scenarios, etc..> that really caught> >> >
me>> > > > off> > > > > guard. It's not that I could not have solved these> >>
issues, had I> > been> > > > > there> > > > > logged into the routers, its>> >
explaining things we take for granted> > can> > > > be> > > > > tough,> >>
especially in interviews. It seems like a lot of> > > > > people are amazed>>
> that a CCIE couldn't answer this or that question.> > > > > Personally, I>
am>> > trying to come up with a knowledge maintanance> > plan,> > > > > like>
reading> > a chapter in the exam cert guide every week. The tasks> > I> >
reading> > > > >> > do not do> > on a daily basis fade quickly.> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > I> have of late been> > going way back to basics, reading up
on TCP/IP> > > >> flows,> > > > >> > Ethernet, ARP, looking at packet sniffing
traces, etc..> Someone made> > > > >> > mention> > > > > of the CAM table
populating> entries, so I read up on that> > too.> > > > >> > > > > I
certainly don't> know everything, but I would love to.> > Care to give> > >
me> > > > > some>> > > >> > example questions you might ask a> > CCIE in an
interview, or> > >> technologies> > > > > you> > > > > would expect> > to have
him/her to > technologies> > > > > you> > > > > have> down pat?> > > > >> > >
> > DR> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >>
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