From: Mark Mahan (mmahan@caprock.com)
Date: Thu Dec 06 2007 - 00:52:38 ART
There is a pretty good book call "From Serf to Surfer: Becoming a
Network Consultant" that is a great read for anyone getting into
consulting. I've thought about it so I bought and read it but I am
still an 8 to 5'r (well, global company and in the only NE group so
whenever to whenever really). It doesn't cover rates as a specific
number but covers some strategy to gain good rates, look like your rates
are better than competition and keep the customer on a retainer. It
covers a lot of other angles too. Dress, talk, taxes, etc.
Mark Mahan
Network Engineer
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
darth router
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:08 PM
To: Durkin, Michael (MED US)
Cc: Ben Holko; Joseph Brunner; Dane Newman; Darby Weaver;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE typical contractor rates
I knew a gal that made about 50k doing hair. She had all certs of hair
certifications. She worked at a salon, and she gets 50% of every
procedure,
the salon gets the other half. So I suppose if she worked for herself
and
could bring in her own business, she makes as much as most CCIEs :) I
know a
guy who does nails. He has a mega huge house. He is doing better than me
:P
DR
On 12/5/07, Durkin, Michael (MED US) <michael.durkin@siemens.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> How much does it cost, and how much training does it take to cut hair?
> Maybe I am in the wrong line of work.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Ben Holko
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:28 PM
> To: Joseph Brunner; Dane Newman; Darby Weaver
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; darklordrouter@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE typical contractor rates
>
> > "Hire an "expert" to do your hair in NYC. You will pay more than
$125
> per hour. Now tell me what you're network is worth."
>
> I like it a lot :)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Joseph Brunner
> Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2007 1:05 PM
> To: 'Dane Newman'; 'Darby Weaver'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; darklordrouter@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE typical contractor rates
>
> >I am from USA New york and I am thinking of putting rates at 100.00
h/r
> for
> >work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly 150 h/r depending on
> the
> >company and type of work for direct work. Are these reasonable
rates?
>
> My rates exactly friend. 9/10 people just say yes. Plus Get about 25%
> more
> for O.T. Rate (after 6pm or weekends/holidays).
>
> I usually just say "I require the greater of $100 per hour or 85% of
the
> billing rate". If they aren't billing at least $125 per hour to their
> client
> I give them my "hiring an expert" in NYC speech.
>
> "Hire an "expert" to do your hair in NYC. You will pay more than $125
> per
> hour. Now tell me what you're network is worth."
>
> Joseph "NYC"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Dane
> Newman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:10 PM
> To: Darby Weaver
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; darklordrouter@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE typical contractor rates
>
> I am getting into the consulting game also.
>
> The problem is I can consult on a bunch of different things. Anything
> Microsoft (active directory, exchange 2k3 and 2k7, sharepoint ect) and
> Citrix where the bulk of my exp lies plus Some Cisco now.
>
> Do people who are consulting charge different rates depending on the
> type of
> job they are doing? I could imagion being asked to do something as
> simple
> as patch an OS to something more technical to design and build a whole
> Network/Systems infrastructure.
>
> I am from USA New york and I am thinking of putting rates at 100.00
h/r
> for
> work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly 150 h/r depending on
the
> company and type of work for direct work. Are these reasonable rates?
>
>
> On 12/5/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Darth,
> >
> > I bill about $125.00 per hour for consulting + price
> > of materials (up front).
> >
> > My contracts state:
> >
> > Materials due 100% at the inception of a contract.
> >
> > Expected Labor is 1/2 down on start of project and
> > then 1/2 at the end of project for smaller projects.
> >
> > These types of contracts usually encompass about a
> > $2000.00 project to about a $20,000 project. Actual
> > work per project is about 2 days to about 8-10 days
> > tops. Sometimes I spread them out a bit.
> >
> > Time and Materials for long-term projects.
> >
> > Now, I'm not a CCIE either.
> >
> > I expect your solo rates will vary as many can tell
> > you from this group.
> >
> > And note, I am from the famously underpaid south...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey guys/gals,
> > >
> > > I have just been getting back into the work game. I
> > > am curious about
> > > contracting. I have a steady client that pays me
> > > about 100 an hour for a set
> > > amount of hours per mo. I suppose I could probably
> > > get a much better rate if
> > > I wanted to push it. I work direct for them, and was
> > > not recruited through a
> > > recruiter. It's my first consulting gig. When you
> > > take jobs through
> > > recruiters, how much can you expect to make? How
> > > much do these guys make on
> > > top of your wage? I am not after any real specific
> > > answers here.
> > >
> > > Generally speaking, how much do yall bill for? Do
> > > you bill less if you are
> > > garanteed more hours, maybe even months of work?
> > >
> > > DR
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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