From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Wed Dec 05 2007 - 23:23:00 ART
Wow,
ok, well look for it soon.
Just I have to wait to release it until I'm doing something else..
It's going to be brutally honest, and contain many peoples best advice. I
can think of consultants in other core IT disciplines other than CSCO that
will participate!
Thanks for the IDEA. Its time good people left the "work FULLTIME" rat race
in greater droves. 20 months into consulting I'm like WTF was I thinking!!!!
-Joe
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From: darth router [mailto:darklordrouter@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:13 PM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: Dane Newman; Darby Weaver; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE typical contractor rates
FREAKING AWESOME!
Thanks for the response guys. The information is invaluable. A bunch of
people unicasted me as well. Thanks. Too bad there isn't a book on being
successful at technology consulting. A step by step guide on billing,
writing tech labor contracts, etc...
DR
On 12/5/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>I am from USA New york and I am thinking of putting rates at 100.00 h/r for
>work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly 150 h/r depending on the
>company and type of work for direct work. Are these reasonable rates?
My rates exactly friend. 9/10 people just say yes. Plus Get about 25% more
for O.T. Rate (after 6pm or weekends/holidays).
I usually just say "I require the greater of $100 per hour or 85% of the
billing rate". If they aren't billing at least $125 per hour to their client
I give them my "hiring an expert" in NYC speech.
"Hire an "expert" to do your hair in NYC. You will pay more than $125 per
hour. Now tell me what you're network is worth."
Joseph "NYC"
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com
<mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On Behalf Of Dane
Newman
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:10 PM
To: Darby Weaver
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; darklordrouter@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CCIE typical contractor rates
I am getting into the consulting game also.
The problem is I can consult on a bunch of different things. Anything
Microsoft (active directory, exchange 2k3 and 2k7, sharepoint ect) and
Citrix where the bulk of my exp lies plus Some Cisco now.
Do people who are consulting charge different rates depending on the type of
job they are doing? I could imagion being asked to do something as simple
as patch an OS to something more technical to design and build a whole
Network/Systems infrastructure.
I am from USA New york and I am thinking of putting rates at 100.00 h/r for
work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly 150 h/r depending on the
company and type of work for direct work. Are these reasonable rates?
On 12/5/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Darth,
>
> I bill about $125.00 per hour for consulting + price
> of materials (up front).
>
> My contracts state:
>
> Materials due 100% at the inception of a contract.
>
> Expected Labor is 1/2 down on start of project and
> then 1/2 at the end of project for smaller projects.
>
> These types of contracts usually encompass about a
> $2000.00 project to about a $20,000 project. Actual
> work per project is about 2 days to about 8-10 days
> tops. Sometimes I spread them out a bit.
>
> Time and Materials for long-term projects.
>
> Now, I'm not a CCIE either.
>
> I expect your solo rates will vary as many can tell
> you from this group.
>
> And note, I am from the famously underpaid south...
>
>
>
>
> --- darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Hey guys/gals,
> >
> > I have just been getting back into the work game. I
> > am curious about
> > contracting. I have a steady client that pays me
> > about 100 an hour for a set
> > amount of hours per mo. I suppose I could probably
> > get a much better rate if
> > I wanted to push it. I work direct for them, and was
> > not recruited through a
> > recruiter. It's my first consulting gig. When you
> > take jobs through
> > recruiters, how much can you expect to make? How
> > much do these guys make on
> > top of your wage? I am not after any real specific
> > answers here.
> >
> > Generally speaking, how much do yall bill for? Do
> > you bill less if you are
> > garanteed more hours, maybe even months of work?
> >
> > DR
> >
> >
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