Re: Different ways to solve a task

From: Mounir Mohamed (mounir.ccieisa@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 22 2007 - 07:54:59 ART

Both :)

On Nov 22, 2007 12:25 PM, Salau, Yemi <yemi.salau@siemens.com> wrote:
> Mounir,
>
> Whether Cisco uses same script or not, proctor marks it or not, is
> anyone's best guess.
>
> From official Cisco statement:
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/rs/lab_exam.html
> "The labs are graded by proctors who ensure all the criterion are met
> and points are awarded accordingly. The proctors use "automatic tools"
> to gather information from the routers "to perform some preliminary
> evaluations", but the "final determination" of a correct or incorrect
> configuration is "done" by a "trained proctor"."
>
> From another official Cisco statement:
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/preparation/assessor_details.
> html#3
> "As in the actual lab exam, each question has specific objectives and an
> expected configuration. Performance is evaluated and scored similar to
> actual CCIE lab exams."
>
> I would say, concentrate on your methodology, techniques and skills,
> Cisco Assessor lab is the closest you can get to, no one (except the
> proctors and other members of the Cisco CCIE certification group) knows
> the details of how the exams are marked (viz-a-viz scripts vs proctor),
> well officially! All people can speculate are just that ... Best guess!
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Yemi Salau
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Mounir Mohamed [mailto:mounir.ccieisa@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:55 AM
> To: Salau, Yemi
> Cc: bdennis@internetworkexpert.com; Toh Soon, Lim; shiran guez; Gupta,
> Gopal (NWCC); ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Different ways to solve a task
>
> Dear All,
>
> Yes I agree, Cisco CCIE Assessor teach you how they verify your
> solution and how you gain your points, but i have one questions
> regarding the real lab marking, is Cisco using the same script (used
> in assessor lab) or the proctor doing by himself!!!
>
> Best Regards,
> Mounir Mohamed
>
> On Nov 22, 2007 11:29 AM, Salau, Yemi <yemi.salau@siemens.com> wrote:
> > Brian has said it all, not a lot to had to that. But, after months of
> > preparing for CCIE, you will know which is the simplest solution by
> > default. For me, I had to try my hands on Cisco Assessor Labs to have
> a
> > bird's eye view of what Cisco want. I failed my assessor labs, but
> > learnt a lot with respect to the "marking" scheme! Knew what kind of
> > commands cisco are expecting in situations where they don't specify
> etc.
> >
> > With time, these things will come to you easy, well I guess :-)
> >
> > Many Thanks
> >
> > Yemi Salau
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Brian Dennis [mailto:bdennis@internetworkexpert.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:46 AM
> > To: Toh Soon, Lim; Salau, Yemi; shiran guez; Gupta, Gopal (NWCC);
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Different ways to solve a task
> >
> > It's simple. There are two ways to solve any given task in the real
> > lab,
> > the Cisco way and the wrong way ;-) Just kidding.
> >
> > Just think of all possible solutions and select the simplest solution.
> > Try to stay away from hacks (i.e. whacky off the wall ways to solve a
> > task). And when they give you restrictions for a task be sure to
> > understand fully the solution they do not want you to use.
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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> >
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > Subject: Re: Different ways to solve a task
> > Date: Wed, November 21, 2007 12:58
> > From: "Toh Soon, Lim" <tohsoon28@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Hi Yemi,
> > >
> > > If the proctor blatantly replies "You can do whatever that solves
> the
> > > problem", how do you ensure that your solution is very Cisco-like so
> > that
> > > you won't lose those points?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > B.Rgds,
> > > Lim TS
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/21/07, Salau, Yemi <yemi.salau@siemens.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All I can say is that, even if you have options to solving a task,
> > you
> > > > want to verify things with the proctor in the Lab!
> > > >
> > > > There is a techie way of solving a task, there is an architect way
> > of
> > > > doing things, and also there is a Cisco Way!
> > > >
> > > > In the real life these things doesn't matter, as long as you
> design
> > and
> > > > provide solutions to problems within resource limit, you're fine.
> > But,
> > > > as far as testing is concern, you wouldn't want to take any
> chances.
> > > >
> > > > Many Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Yemi Salau
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > > shiran guez
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:22 AM
> > > > To: Gupta, Gopal (NWCC)
> > > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Different ways to solve a task
> > > >
> > > > if there is no other specification then you are allowed to do what
> > ever
> > > > you
> > > > want to achieve the goal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 21, 2007 12:10 PM, Gupta, Gopal (NWCC) <gopal.gupta@hp.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi GS,
> > > > >
> > > > > I was going through the IE VOL4.1 lab 2 Redistribution Section.
> > > > > my question is :- Is this okay to do whatever method you like
> > until
> > > > or
> > > > > unless we break the requirement of the question and we do have
> > full
> > > > > reachability? coz The method i have applied for redistribution
> is
> > > > > totally different than the Solution given.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any Comments ???
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks &amp; Regards,
> > > > > Gops
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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