From: A.G. Ananth Sarma (GMail) (ananth.sarma@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 21 2007 - 12:14:54 ART
Guys,
We recently bought many Cisco products in our company including NAC. LMS,
ACS, IPS, WLC to name a few. Every product document says that it comes with
the Document CD. But, I do not see any CD.
Do they mean the DocCD? This may sound silly but, I really would like to
know.
Regards,
Ananth
On Nov 21, 2007 5:37 PM, Andy Cole <Andy.Cole@foremostfarms.com> wrote:
> There are things you need to know 'cold'. IP Routing Multicast QoS
> Security IS Services Bridging and Switching. You should at least read
> them, thoroughly. Main thing to keep in mind when you are reading these
> is WHY would I use this variation over another? (OSPF stub vs. NSSA,
> etc.)
>
> Anything else you come across, like Web Caching find where it is in the
> DOC CD get an overview. On the more obscure topics, best to know WHERE
> in the DOC CD you can find it than know them 'cold'.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Gregory Gombas
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:34 PM
> To: Simon Grace
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Difference in Exam
>
> I feel your pain. Everyone says "hey just read the DOC CD" casually as
> if its a quick read over breakfast. Has anyone actually tried to print
> the DOC CD?!?
>
> I've printed all the topice relevant to the R+S and I counted over 6000
> pages of text to read. So I'm not sure how realistic it is to read
> through and retain it all. Its like painting the golden gate bridge - by
> the time you get to the end the beginning is already getting rusty.
>
> So can anyone suggest a more efficient way of going through the DOC CD
> or perhaps the most relevant portions?
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
> On Nov 20, 2007 5:10 AM, Simon Grace <SimonG@pcsystems.gr> wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > I've left this a few days before I wrote it as I needed to calm down.
> >
> >
> >
> > Back in September I took my first lab exam. I used the Internetworking
>
> > expert labs and due to me not being quick enough and not leaving
> > myself enough time to work on the real tricky questions I just missed
> out.
> >
> > Okay, no problems with that, I didn't deserve to pass and needed to up
>
> > my game a bit.
> >
> > Without going into details that by knowing the stuff on the IE labs
> > and the various areas covered you should be okay in the lab. There
> > were a couple of new questions I'd not seen but that's to be expected.
>
> > The lab was of a fair level.
> >
> >
> >
> > Okay, I got back on the study, got my speed up and basically hit it at
>
> > 150%. I carried on with the IE labs but really nailed them, I also
> > checked out a lot of the things that came up here and lab'd stuff up
> > that I'd not seen before.
> >
> >
> >
> > Went back last week, knowing that nothing is certain but knowing that
> > my skill level was much higher than the first time around and I only
> > just missed that.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was blown away, firstly the exam was much, much harder than the
> > first one. I read through the exam and realised that a good proportion
>
> > of the questions I was seeing for the first time. Not to mention the
> > way the questions were asked. Once again without going into details it
>
> > wasn't a case of configure this it was put in such a way to make it as
>
> > difficult as possible to ask a question. Not just once, twice but once
>
> > again, many difficult questions. I couldn't help but feel that they
> > had made the exam so difficult that they were really trying to stop
> > people from passing. Going by the exam 2 months before and then this
> > one, they was absolutely no comparison, the second was just mind
> blowing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now, I'm no Einstein, but I did work very hard on this and I know my
> > stuff, but when the score report comes back I really can't help but
> > feel that something really isn't quite right, I feel like the goal
> > posts have been completely moved. Plus I know the stuff was working
> > and I know where I dropped points but the score report doesn't reflect
> that.
> >
> >
> >
> > I got chatting to a guy after the exam who'd had the same lab. He'd
> > also sat one a couple of months before and had been studying about the
>
> > same amount of time and talking to him I get the idea that he too
> > knows his subject. We both agreed fully that it was just on another
> > plane and couldn't understand how two exams could be so different in
> > expected level of knowledge.
> >
> >
> >
> > So, I'm writing this not in a lets go on a burn and pillage rampage
> > but rather has anyone else had similar experiences, do you feel a bit
> > let down by the fact that there appears to be no standard level for
> > the exam. I'm trying to speak with our Cisco guys here to see what can
>
> > be done. Obviously Cisco own it and do with it what they want but I
> > don't like to be treated unfairly and will try and do whatever is in
> > my power to get things sorted. The price of the exam including flights
>
> > etc isn't cheap and we deserve a level playing field.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please unicast me, no need to go into details but more on the lines of
>
> > found the exam to be fair or totally different levels, whatever you
> > feel relevant.
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh well, I'm gonna take a few weeks off, think about things and then I
>
> > suppose get back into it.
> >
> >
> >
> > I wish you guys who are going to take the exam all the luck and don't
> > worry, if you get something on the lines of the first one you are
> > getting a fair crack of the whip.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Simon.
> >
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