From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 21 2007 - 06:53:46 ART
hehehhehee..very true Andrew.
Rgds
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Usankin, Andrew" <Andrew.Usankin@twtelecom.com>
To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:56 PM
Subject: RE: Difference in Exam
> Cheer up guys :) Every section begins from "lyrics" as "About Cisco IOS
> software", "Using Cisco IOS feature navigator", blah blah blah. It's
> about 50 pages. Documentation itself repeated many times throughout the
> text. So total it comes to about 50% of useful information. Isn't it
> cool already? Just a 3000 pages to through.
>
>
> Andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Gregory Gombas
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:34 PM
> To: Simon Grace
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Difference in Exam
>
> I feel your pain. Everyone says "hey just read the DOC CD" casually as
> if its a quick read over breakfast. Has anyone actually tried to print
> the DOC CD?!?
>
> I've printed all the topice relevant to the R+S and I counted over 6000
> pages of text to read. So I'm not sure how realistic it is to read
> through and retain it all. Its like painting the golden gate bridge - by
> the time you get to the end the beginning is already getting rusty.
>
> So can anyone suggest a more efficient way of going through the DOC CD
> or perhaps the most relevant portions?
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
> On Nov 20, 2007 5:10 AM, Simon Grace <SimonG@pcsystems.gr> wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>>
>>
>> I've left this a few days before I wrote it as I needed to calm down.
>>
>>
>>
>> Back in September I took my first lab exam. I used the Internetworking
>
>> expert labs and due to me not being quick enough and not leaving
>> myself enough time to work on the real tricky questions I just missed
> out.
>>
>> Okay, no problems with that, I didn't deserve to pass and needed to up
>
>> my game a bit.
>>
>> Without going into details that by knowing the stuff on the IE labs
>> and the various areas covered you should be okay in the lab. There
>> were a couple of new questions I'd not seen but that's to be expected.
>
>> The lab was of a fair level.
>>
>>
>>
>> Okay, I got back on the study, got my speed up and basically hit it at
>
>> 150%. I carried on with the IE labs but really nailed them, I also
>> checked out a lot of the things that came up here and lab'd stuff up
>> that I'd not seen before.
>>
>>
>>
>> Went back last week, knowing that nothing is certain but knowing that
>> my skill level was much higher than the first time around and I only
>> just missed that.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was blown away, firstly the exam was much, much harder than the
>> first one. I read through the exam and realised that a good proportion
>
>> of the questions I was seeing for the first time. Not to mention the
>> way the questions were asked. Once again without going into details it
>
>> wasn't a case of configure this it was put in such a way to make it as
>
>> difficult as possible to ask a question. Not just once, twice but once
>
>> again, many difficult questions. I couldn't help but feel that they
>> had made the exam so difficult that they were really trying to stop
>> people from passing. Going by the exam 2 months before and then this
>> one, they was absolutely no comparison, the second was just mind
> blowing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now, I'm no Einstein, but I did work very hard on this and I know my
>> stuff, but when the score report comes back I really can't help but
>> feel that something really isn't quite right, I feel like the goal
>> posts have been completely moved. Plus I know the stuff was working
>> and I know where I dropped points but the score report doesn't reflect
> that.
>>
>>
>>
>> I got chatting to a guy after the exam who'd had the same lab. He'd
>> also sat one a couple of months before and had been studying about the
>
>> same amount of time and talking to him I get the idea that he too
>> knows his subject. We both agreed fully that it was just on another
>> plane and couldn't understand how two exams could be so different in
>> expected level of knowledge.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I'm writing this not in a lets go on a burn and pillage rampage
>> but rather has anyone else had similar experiences, do you feel a bit
>> let down by the fact that there appears to be no standard level for
>> the exam. I'm trying to speak with our Cisco guys here to see what can
>
>> be done. Obviously Cisco own it and do with it what they want but I
>> don't like to be treated unfairly and will try and do whatever is in
>> my power to get things sorted. The price of the exam including flights
>
>> etc isn't cheap and we deserve a level playing field.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please unicast me, no need to go into details but more on the lines of
>
>> found the exam to be fair or totally different levels, whatever you
>> feel relevant.
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh well, I'm gonna take a few weeks off, think about things and then I
>
>> suppose get back into it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish you guys who are going to take the exam all the luck and don't
>> worry, if you get something on the lines of the first one you are
>> getting a fair crack of the whip.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Simon.
>>
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