From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Mon Nov 19 2007 - 14:30:48 ART
I agree it's a personal thing. For my part I still believe getting the CCIE
is a remarkable achievement. People have gone about rising numbers ever
since the program took off in the late 1990's. The fact remains that the
CCIE is difficult to obtain. There is an intellectual requirement to passing
this thing but perhaps just as important is the degree of personal
commitment and determination it takes to clear it. People's milage will vary
depending on freetime available to chase the CCIE but regardless it still
remains very difficult to get through it whatever ligitimate resources you
have at your disposal. You still have to put the long hours and the hard
miles in and that's something many people still come up short on committing
to. I know one CCIE who had the best part of a year off work on full pay by
his employer to concentrate on preparing for the lab. Labbooks and books
were paid for, so was rack access, so were exam fees and flights..even a
bootcamp was thrown in. The guy studied hard. It took him 4 attempts to
clear it a few years ago.
Literally hundreds of thousands of engineers have failed on the journey to
become a CCIE over the years. When you consider that the program has been
going 10 years and that less than 20000 CCIE's worldwide have cleared the
lab so I would say it's still a pretty exclusive club.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Usankin, Andrew" <Andrew.Usankin@twtelecom.com>
To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE 19366
> Everybody should decide for himself, but as to me - CCIE is not a
> remarkable achievement anymore. Take a loot at the number, it says it
> all. So if you still want to get to the hall of fame, you should get at
> least two CCIE, three is better, 5 - is a group of people whom you can
> count on your fingers. :)
>
> Andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Gregory Gombas
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 5:47 PM
> To: A.G. Ananth Sarma (GMail)
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: CCIE 19366
>
> Me too. I guarantee you it will soon say in job postings "CCIE with
> number below 20000 preferred". Cause you know after 20000 the CCIE is
> easy :-)
>
> On Nov 17, 2007 9:22 AM, A.G. Ananth Sarma (GMail)
> <ananth.sarma@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Congrats Joseph,
>>
>> By the way guys, the number really ticks very fast.
>>
>> I would like to catch up before it reaches 20k.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ananth
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2007 8:55 AM, darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Grats Joseph. Whats next?
>> >
>> > DR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/16/07, Gregory Gombas <ggombas@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Congrats Joe! Very well deserved! I could tell from the way you
>> > > were banging out configs in our group study session that I would
>> > > see your number soon.
>> > >
>> > > Security eh...that would be my choice for a second CCIE.
>> > > How bout I get this pesky R+S lab out of the way and we can fire
>> > > up the Security webex!
>> > >
>> > > Warmest Regards,
>> > > Greg
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Nov 16, 2007 6:55 AM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> wrote:
>> > > > First I want to thank god for all he has given me.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Second I would like to thank Howard, Bobby (RTP), Tom and Tong
>> > > > (SJ)
>> the
>> > > > proctors who work so hard to keep the lab running as smooth as
>> > > > it
>> does.
>> > > You
>> > > > are gentlemen, and even when I walked out with nothing and knew
>> > > > it, I
>> > > felt
>> > > > honored to challenge your creation.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Next I would like to Thank Brian Dennis, Brian McGahan, Scott
>> > > > Morris
>> and
>> > > > Narbik Kocharians. It's one thing to get your number and just
>> > > > sit in
>> the
>> > > > corner somewhere. It's a crowning achievement to use it to help
>> > > > others
>> > > share
>> > > > your achievement. Your participation here was a huge study
>> > > > motivation
>> to
>> > > me.
>> > > > Narbik I touched your name on the wall in RTP yesterday before I
>> started
>> > > and
>> > > > I knew it was time.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Got to run, before somebody picks my security blueprint off the
>> printer.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Joseph L. Brunner
>> > > >
>> > > > CCIE #19366
>> > > >
>> > > >
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