RE: CCIE Important Interview Quesition asked by Sunrise, Swiss

From: Dennis Dumont (dfdumont@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Nov 08 2007 - 21:17:20 ART


Back when I was a hiring mgr, I had a few questions I
asked that had multiple right answers. Case in point,
"You have just typed, 'deb ip pack det' in your
session, but nothing shows up. What's wrong and how
do you fix it?"
Yeah there's LOTS of answers to this one, but I was
looking for the thought process, not the actual
answer.
I don't see how 'lifting' router or fixing it still
attached to the rack applies, but I'll say this - I
concur wholeheartedly with the other comments in this
thread around 'paper' CCIE's. I thought I'd never
admit such a thing existed, except I've interviewed
too many of them. They couldn't design there way out
of a wet paper bag, and probably couldn't troubleshoot
an inverted 60-pin serial cable.

I think this points to an even more pervasive problem
in the IT industry - lack of governance, or more
correctly of an admission process to the industry.
Just because I can cram a Transcender or TestKing test
puke, doesn't mean I know anything about the
technology. Quite frankly all certifications EXCEPT
the CCIE Practical exam are fundamentally flawed by
being a multiple-choice questionnaire. The correct
answer appears in the test question simply for the
person to select - but I digress

I said this before on other forums, but I think WE
need to decide what to do with OUR industry. I think
we need a guild, or some form of regulatory body, like
what Lawyers, Doctors and even CPA's go through to
ENTER their respective professions. We need people
like Scott Morris, Linus Torvalds, et. al. to be on
the Board and to delineate how the rest of (that
haven't already proven our worth through years of
contributions) get into the Guild. I think a system
that follows the Apprentice, Journeyman, Master kind
of hierarchy would work well and has significant
recent and historical validity.

What do YOU think? How do we either prevent
less-than-qualified people from taking our positions
(or our sale), and/or how do we validate that we as a
person know what we are talking about and can be
trusted?

Just my $0.02
Dennis Dumont



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