From: Brian Dennis (bdennis@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Fri Oct 26 2007 - 02:48:25 ART
Here are a couple questions and answers from the Ask the Expert session
in regards to grading (edited by me for clarity ;-)
Q - How are points awarded in the exam? Per question or per section?
A - You are marked down points for questions, not per section. Suppose
you have 4 QoS questions, 2+2+2+3 points total 9 points. If you got the
first 3 correct then for the QoS section you will get 6 points or around
66% of the section. Again, candidates are given points per questions.
Q - Let's say we have a multicast task that is worth 3 points. Suppose I
can get it working but to do so I have to create a loopback interface,
and that breaks one of the requirements of a 2 point task in an earlier
section. Do I lose the 2 points for the earlier task, or 3 for the
multicast task, or 5 for both tasks?
A - If in order to get your 3 multicast points you need to create a
loopback that breaks a clear exam restriction on a earlier question you
will lose points for the early question (worth 2 points per example) but
not lose points for the multicast question.
--Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP) bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
Internetwork Expert, Inc. http://www.InternetworkExpert.com Toll Free: 877-224-8987 Direct: 775-852-3995 (Outside the US and Canada)
Scott Vermillion wrote: > Hi Lim, > > I realize I'm the wrong Scott to be answering, but I found it very > interesting that Maurillo Goritos' recent "Ask The Experts" session on > Netpro actually addressed point percentages on a couple of different > occasions. Conventional wisdom I think has always held that this is NDA > stuff but Maurillo apparently doesn't view it that way. Here are a few > quotes: > > "The Security topics in the lab represent about 6% to 8% of the exam and the > blueprint cover basically: > > 1. AAA > 2. Security server protocols > 3. Traffic filtering and firewalls > 4. Access lists > 5. Routing protocols security, catalyst security > 6. CBAC > 7. Other security features" > > > "Keep in mind that Switching and IP routing are about 70% of the exam." > > One gets the impression that we could have gotten a full official record of > the current lab point breakdown if we had asked the right questions. I got > into the discussion towards the very end, though, it was too late by then. > > Other things of note were that no changes to the written nor the lab > blueprint is in the offing. No changes to lab hardware are eminent or even > decided upon at this point. More lab locations are likely to be announced > in early 2008. Elvis is indeed alive and well (rooms with Hoffa). Wireless > is still under consideration for its own CCIE track or perhaps incorporation > back into R&S. The blueprint will shortly be updated to clarify a few > things to do with multicast. > > Cheers, > > Scott > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Toh > Soon, Lim > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:17 PM > To: Scott Morris > Cc: Ben Holko; ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: Question on grading and sections > > Hi Scott, > > Are you able to tell how are the points allocated? > > Are there going to be many tasks in a section with little points or vice > versa? > > > Thank you. > > B.Rgds, > Lim TS > > > > > On 10/25/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote: >> No, the partial credit rule has to do with tasks INSIDE a point >> section. So >> if each of those subsections (1.1, 1.2, etc) had two tasks each but you >> only >> did one of them correctly in 1.3, you could get points for 1.1, 1.2, > 1.4and >> 1.5 still. >> >> Now, there are "exceptions" or variations to that. This is a >> results-based >> grading in most instances. So there's a chance that what you did not get >> working in 1.1 made it impossible for 1.4 and 1.5 to work, so by that you >> would lose multiple areas. >> >> Having the right commands in doesn't necessarily mean that things are >> working everywhere you expect. That's why it's important to do your own >> show/debugs to let the router/switch tell you that you've done a good job! >> >> HTH, >> >> >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, >> JNCIE-M >> #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER >> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. >> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor >> >> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits! >> >> smorris@ipexpert.com >> >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130 >> http://www.ipexpert.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of >> Ben >> Holko >> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:36 AM >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com >> Subject: Question on grading and sections >> >> Hey peeps, >> >> Quick question on grading, the exam guide says something like you need to >> get all points in a section for it to be marked correct, no points are >> awarded for a partially completed or partially correct section. >> >> that's cool, my question is what constitutes a "section" >> >> For example, if Bridging and Switching is task "1" and has sub tasks such: >> >> 1.1 2 points >> 1.2 2 points >> 1.3 3 point >> 1.4 2 points >> 1.5 3 points >> >> does that mean I have to 1.1-5 all correct to get any points (12 in this >> case) in bridging and switching, or does it mean I have to get all of 1.1 >> right to get my 2 points, all of 1.2 right to get another 2 points, etc >> etc >> ?? >> >> Ben >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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