From: nrf (noglikirf@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Oct 25 2007 - 01:51:40 ART
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From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: "'nrf'" <noglikirf@hotmail.com>; <smorris@ipexpert.com>; "'istong'"
<istong@stong.org>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <security@groupstudy.com>;
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Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Price Increase
> "But why would you need to? As I'm sure we know, the CCIE exam ain't that
> 'switch-heavy'.
>
> I very strongly suspect that the switch functions that are on the exam can
> all be successfully emulated. Come on, like I said, you're not exactly
> loading the switch capacity very much on the exam. In fact, you're hardly
> loading the capacity at all."
>
> And there would be a comment that fairly well seals the idea of how many
> times you've sat through the actual lab exam in any recent time. Or an
> understanding of how things work.
>
> "Uh, trust me, I AM thinking, thank you very much.
>
> Even a proctor problem can be solved (or at least aided) by
> virtualization.
> Why not have all of the proctors available remotely? Why not connect them
> to users via, say, videoconferencing or web-conferencing. Why exactly do
> you need a PHYSICAL proctor right there? Like I said, I thought Cisco was
> supposed to be a networking company. If any company is supposed to know
> all
> about the benefits of teleworking and e-learning, it would be Cisco.
>
> Think about it."
>
> Again... Academic. Remember, in an academic sense (and on the napkin on
> which it was created) RIP actually made sense. Reality, however, has ways
> of intervening someplace along the way.
>
> I think I'd be more pissed about not having a person physically present to
> answer questions than I would about taking 6 months to find a date. Just
> MY
> opinion of course, but that's what this all seems to be made of.
>
> Do me a favor... Take the exam. Look at it from the vantage of the
> candidate when you do so, but keep all these ideas if your head so you can
> tell me your actual feelings and opinion when you're done there. 'cause
> the
> more we go through this, the more it sounds like you are talking to a
> chalkboard rather than sitting in the candidates spot.
See, there you go again, presuming that I haven't taken the exam. I'm
neither confirming nor disconforming anything.
What I will ask is very simple. Let's say that I have in fact quite a bit
of experience with the lab. Would that change your mind? Are you willing
to withdraw all of your latest posts? No, probably not, right? So then why
even ask whether I have taken the lab or not? Seems to me that you're not
going to change your mind no matter what the answer to your question is.
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