RE: Lab Query

From: Brian McGahan (bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Fri Oct 19 2007 - 10:55:49 ART

I would do them sequentially, i.e. 1,7,8,9,10,11, then back to
1,7,8,9,10,11. This way you're not just memorizing the information, but
retaining it instead.

Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Gombas [mailto:ggombas@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 8:54 AM
> To: Steve Schoeneman
> Cc: Brian McGahan; Brian Dennis; Ananth Vk; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Lab Query
>
> Here's another silly question...
>
> Should you do them in sequence or do the same one five times before
> moving to the next?
>
> For example, should I do lab 1 five times then move to lab 7 or do
> 1,7-11 once then repeat that sequence five times?
>
> Thanks again,
> Greg
>
> On 10/18/07, Steve Schoeneman <steve@grimnotions.com> wrote:
> > In the 12 day bootcamp, they recommended lab 1,7,8,9,10 & 11 from the
> > version 4, volume 2 workbook.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Oct 18, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Gregory Gombas wrote:
> >
> > Thanks again - I will certainly give this a try...
> >
> > Can you recommend a good cross section?
> >
> > On 10/18/07, Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > Greg,
> >
> > The fact is that there are only so many variations of a specific
> > technology that you can be tested on. How many variations are there of
> > hub-and-spoke Frame Relay? of EtherChannel? of Routing Authentication?
> etc.
> > By doing a cross section of labs with repetition the goal is not to
> memorize
> > the answers or topology, but to have the configurations become second
> > nature. Although once you discover certain problems you may remember
> them
> > the next time round, i.e. routing loops, certain config variations,
> etc.,
> > most candidates we have found that they highly benefit from this
> > methodology.
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Gregory Gombas
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:32 AM
> > To: Brian Dennis
> > Cc: Ananth Vk; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Lab Query
> >
> > Hi Brian,
> >
> > Big IE fan here...but wouldn't doing the same labs over and over again
> > just get you used to a certain topology, so when you come across a new
> > topology in the lab it makes it harder to adapt?
> >
> > Looking forward to your top five picks though...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
> > On 10/18/07, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > If I personally was going to take a test and I saw a lot of people
> > saying
> > they used a certain "method" to prepare that enabled them to pass the
> > first time around I surely would at least look into using that "method".
> > Of course we know that not all methods work for all people so I may take
> > this certain method and modify it to fit my learning style.
> >
> > As a side note a new highly successful approach that we (Internetwork
> > Expert) are recommending to certain candidates is taking only 5 or 6
> > full
> > scale labs but doing them 4 or 5 times each. Then during the last week
> > or
> > two before the real lab taking 2 or 3 additional full scale labs and
> > doing
> > them once or twice each. This approach should get you to the point
> > where
> > you can do any of the 5 or 6 labs within 4 hours and be able to complete
> > the additional 2 or 3 labs within 5 to 5.5 hours. You would be amazed
> > at
> > the amount you can learn by doing a lab more than once. Plus one of the
> > big benefits with this approach is that you gain speed and accuracy
> > (accuracy = correct configuration the first time around) which is
> > important in passing the lab.
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Subject: Lab Query
> > Date: Wed, October 17, 2007 19:03
> > From: "Ananth Vk" <ananth.vk@tcs.com>
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > There are a lot of practice labs available for the lab from different
> > vendors..
> > Lets say i have practiced 10 labs that are complex &amp; say im
> > confident,then
> > how to determine if my 11th one has to be the real lab / another
> > practice
> >
> > lab
> >
> > Whats the main take away with the practice labs ?
> > Is it the practice in number of practice labs/ complexity in topology/
> > types of questions asked ?
> > Cos i sometimes read that a person passed lab in first attempt &amp;
> > he
> > read
> > books + a specific vendor material....
> > Then whats the differentiator in the real lab that puts many people
> > down
> >
> > though they had many workbooks to practice with them ?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ananth
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