Re: Lab Query

From: Steve Schoeneman (steve@grimnotions.com)
Date: Thu Oct 18 2007 - 14:50:52 ART

In the 12 day bootcamp, they recommended lab 1,7,8,9,10 & 11 from the
version 4, volume 2 workbook.

Steve

On Oct 18, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Gregory Gombas wrote:

> Thanks again - I will certainly give this a try...
>
> Can you recommend a good cross section?
>
> On 10/18/07, Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>> Greg,
>>
>> The fact is that there are only so many variations of a
>> specific
>> technology that you can be tested on. How many variations are
>> there of
>> hub-and-spoke Frame Relay? of EtherChannel? of Routing
>> Authentication? etc.
>> By doing a cross section of labs with repetition the goal is not
>> to memorize
>> the answers or topology, but to have the configurations become second
>> nature. Although once you discover certain problems you may
>> remember them
>> the next time round, i.e. routing loops, certain config
>> variations, etc.,
>> most candidates we have found that they highly benefit from this
>> methodology.
>>
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
>> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Gregory Gombas
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:32 AM
>>> To: Brian Dennis
>>> Cc: Ananth Vk; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lab Query
>>>
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>
>>> Big IE fan here...but wouldn't doing the same labs over and over
>>> again
>>> just get you used to a certain topology, so when you come across
>>> a new
>>> topology in the lab it makes it harder to adapt?
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your top five picks though...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On 10/18/07, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>>> If I personally was going to take a test and I saw a lot of people
>>> saying
>>>> they used a certain "method" to prepare that enabled them to
>>>> pass the
>>>> first time around I surely would at least look into using that
>>>> "method".
>>>> Of course we know that not all methods work for all people so I
>>>> may take
>>>> this certain method and modify it to fit my learning style.
>>>>
>>>> As a side note a new highly successful approach that we
>>>> (Internetwork
>>>> Expert) are recommending to certain candidates is taking only 5
>>>> or 6
>>> full
>>>> scale labs but doing them 4 or 5 times each. Then during the
>>>> last week
>>> or
>>>> two before the real lab taking 2 or 3 additional full scale labs
>>>> and
>>> doing
>>>> them once or twice each. This approach should get you to the point
>>> where
>>>> you can do any of the 5 or 6 labs within 4 hours and be able to
>>>> complete
>>>> the additional 2 or 3 labs within 5 to 5.5 hours. You would be
>>>> amazed
>>> at
>>>> the amount you can learn by doing a lab more than once. Plus
>>>> one of the
>>>> big benefits with this approach is that you gain speed and accuracy
>>>> (accuracy = correct configuration the first time around) which is
>>>> important in passing the lab.
>>>>
>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
>>>> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>>>>
>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>>>> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>>>> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> Subject: Lab Query
>>>> Date: Wed, October 17, 2007 19:03
>>>> From: "Ananth Vk" <ananth.vk@tcs.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a lot of practice labs available for the lab from
>>>>> different
>>>>> vendors..
>>>>> Lets say i have practiced 10 labs that are complex &amp; say im
>>>> confident,then
>>>>> how to determine if my 11th one has to be the real lab / another
>>> practice
>>>>> lab
>>>>>
>>>>> Whats the main take away with the practice labs ?
>>>>> Is it the practice in number of practice labs/ complexity in
>>>>> topology/
>>>>> types of questions asked ?
>>>>> Cos i sometimes read that a person passed lab in first attempt
>>>>> &amp;
>>> he
>>>> read
>>>>> books + a specific vendor material....
>>>>> Then whats the differentiator in the real lab that puts many
>>>>> people
>>> down
>>>>> though they had many workbooks to practice with them ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Ananth
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