From: Valentijn van Veen (valentijn@icando.nl)
Date: Wed Oct 17 2007 - 13:14:13 ART
I read this discussion, and nobody seems to have seen such documents. Well,
I have. They are far from perfect. In addition they have bad solutions. And
if you were able to reproduce a complete lab, you will probably be surprised
or even blind for the "small" changes which you will encounter in the real
labs. Hence you will fail, either because of this or because the proctor can
see you used a solution which was very much like in the illegal lab.
I once had two of the same labs (different attempts). and they looked quite
the same at first, however a small variation can yield a complete other
solution requested for.
conclusion is that you cannot compare a written cheat with a lab cheat. And
in my opinion, the lab is still very demanding and I wouldn't waste your
money on "real" labs. Getting CCIE is still worth it.
Valentijn van Veen
CCIE No. 17384
2007/10/16, Alex Steer <alex.steer@eison.co.uk>:
>
> Don't you get a nice plaque? ;)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Usankin, Andrew
> Sent: 15 October 2007 19:20
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: RE: Will CCIE lab walk on the same road as
> ccna,ccnp,ccsp,mcse,... walked long time ago?
>
> Funny to see all this posts. One tread is whining about somebody
> cheating on the lab by using products you mention. Another tread is
> discussing on how possible is it to get the same lab as on previous
> attempt, and they decide it's improbable after all :)
>
> I guess a lot of people trying to get CCIE number so they can swing it
> around as a golden medal of a super hero. Well, there is none! It's just
> a professional exam, and all you get when you pass - is a number, no
> medals.
>
> So it doesn't have value to you anymore? Fine, find something else that
> suits your purpose. May be a master degree from Harvard, or may be a job
> at Fire Department ;)
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> sirus MOGHADASIAN
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 11:03 AM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: Will CCIE lab walk on the same road as ccna,ccnp,ccsp,mcse,...
> walked long time ago?
>
> Hi GS,
>
> I find at least two site that sell real ccie lab scenarios that have
> product like this (6 Real Labs(2006) + 4 NEW Real
> Labs(2007)!!!!!!!!!!)
>
> if this is true:
>
>
> I think CCIE Lab is now is as trivial as CCNA,CCNP,MCSE, and what ever
> exam that u can find thier dumps out there.
>
> somebody with no knowledge can now be certified as CCIE.
>
> IMHO,what keep glory of CCIE is now gone ,now people can dump this exam
> as others.
>
> I don't wanna disappoint u but I completely lost and pretty hopeless at
> this moment and feel what we spent our time on it is now not as
> valuable as before.
>
>
> Cyrus
>
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