From: Andy Cole (Andy.Cole@foremostfarms.com)
Date: Mon Oct 15 2007 - 13:48:59 ART
Remember just because they say they are real, doesn't mean they are, and
doesn't mean they are current.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Ronnie Angello
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:22 AM
To: Darby Weaver
Cc: Farhan Anwar; sirus MOGHADASIAN; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: OT Re: Will CCIE lab walk on the same road as
ccna,ccnp,ccsp,mcse,... walked long time ago?
It is without a doubt very disturbing to read about these so called
"real" labs that are available, especially since I worked extremely hard
for several years to be able to pass on my 1st attempt. I don't blame
you guys for being pissed about this kind of stuff when you're working
your tails off. With that being said, just keep doing what you're
doing, and worry only about yourself and what you CAN control.
Try not to question the integrity of the CCIE program. There is nothing
that we can do ourselves to stop this crap other than reporting it to
Cisco. Continue to study and practice and then go pass the lab exam.
Taking the easy way out may get you a number if you squeek by but you
will never gain that knowledge and that awesome feeling of achievement.
Stop giving these people free advertising and post something technical
that you learned today!
On 10/14/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You have to love China:
>
> There is where a place offers to teach you those things...
>
> They offer:
>
> Day 1: The Switch
> Day 2: A lab
> Day 3: A lab
> Day 4: A lab
> Day 5: A lab
> Day 6: A lab
> Day 7: A lab
>
>
> Then offer:
>
> Week 1: The Switch
> Week 2: Labs from Day 2 and 3
> Week 3: Labs from Day 4 and 5
> Week 4: Labs from Day 6 and 7
>
> So if one can get real labs so efficiently delivered...
>
> And take the lab in just 5 weeks...
>
> Wow! And pass the first time...
>
> These guys will aparently sit you down with a small army of CCIE's who
> walk their students through each "real lab" they get their hands on.
>
> Talk to zhanglin
>
>
> And someone once asked where all the other CCIE numbers are going...
>
> Use Google.com.cn
>
> See for yourself. There are forums...
>
> So is the Cicco CCIE Center in China going to slow down or open up
> more seats?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> --- Farhan Anwar <farhan.anwar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Cyrus,
> > Remember, doing a CCIE is just the beginning, sustaining it is also
> > hard enough. After attaining the popular number, ppl expect you to
> > be an Expert as the label says, but if you are not what they think
> > of, your survival is tough in the competent market. Sure one can
> > make $1000/month using Rentacert
> > ;) but whats the point in attaining it if all you wanted is the
> > $1000 rent.
> >
> > Let Cisco take care of its CCIE Program's integrity, uniqueness and
> > intensity.
> > Let us concentrate on the matters which help us in attaining our
> > number honestly.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Farhan.
> >
> > On 10/14/07, sirus MOGHADASIAN <cyrus.mgh@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi GS,
> > >
> > > I find at least two site that sell real ccie lab
> > scenarios that have
> > > product
> > > like this (6 Real Labs(2006) + 4 NEW Real
> > Labs(2007)!!!!!!!!!!)
> > >
> > > if this is true:
> > >
> > >
> > > I think CCIE Lab is now is as trivial as
> > CCNA,CCNP,MCSE, and what ever
> > > exam
> > > that u can find thier dumps out there.
> > >
> > > somebody with no knowledge can now be certified as
> > CCIE.
> > >
> > > IMHO,what keep glory of CCIE is now gone ,now
> > people can dump this exam as
> > > others.
> > >
> > > I don't wanna disappoint u but I completely lost
> > and pretty hopeless at
> > > this
> > > moment and feel what we spent our time on it is
> > now not as valuable as
> > > before.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cyrus
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Farhan Anwar
> > www.farhananwar.com
> >
> >
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-- Ronald Angello CCIE #17846
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