RE: interesting behaviour of the switches

From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Tue Oct 09 2007 - 16:50:11 ART


I had this happen for years in a real network. it was one of those
"mysteries" ccna's just accept. I never wondered why with

"no default gateway configured" my 3550's grabbed ntp from
tick.usno.navy.mil. in never figured out my msfc was proxy-arp'ing

 

"probably yes it is enabled by default."

 

Probably? Probably gets very expensive $1,400 a shot.

 

Default behavior.(3560)

 

Vlan11 is up, line protocol is up

  Internet address is 1.1.11.11/24

  Broadcast address is 255.255.255.255

  Address determined by non-volatile memory

  MTU is 1500 bytes

  Helper address is not set

  Directed broadcast forwarding is disabled

  Multicast reserved groups joined: 224.0.0.9

  Outgoing access list is not set

  Inbound access list is not set

  Proxy ARP is enabled <-------------------------- MIRA ESTO!

  Local Proxy ARP is disabled

  Security level is default

  Split horizon is enabled

  ICMP redirects are always sent

  ICMP unreachables are never sent

  ICMP mask replies are never sent

  IP fast switching is enabled

  IP CEF switching is enabled

  IP CEF switching turbo vector

  IP Null turbo vector

  IP multicast fast switching is enabled

  IP multicast distributed fast switching is disabled

  IP route-cache flags are Fast, CEF

  Router Discovery is disabled

  IP output packet accounting is disabled

  IP access violation accounting is disabled

  TCP/IP header compression is disabled

  RTP/IP header compression is disabled

  Probe proxy name replies are disabled

  Policy routing is disabled

  Network address translation is disabled

  BGP Policy Mapping is disabled

  WCCP Redirect outbound is disabled

  WCCP Redirect inbound is disabled

  WCCP Redirect exclude is disabled

 

 

 

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From: John Moor [mailto:johmoor@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 3:39 PM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: Cisco certification
Subject: Re: interesting behaviour of the switches

 

to guys: No everything is configured just as simple as I described. No
errors in the configuration. IP proxy arp is not explicitly configured but
probably yes it is enabled by default.
Let's look again into the topology

 

sw1-vlan30-------vlan30-sw2-vlan50------------------vlan50--sw3

 

Between sw1,sw2 and sw3 is just a simple dot1q trunk.

Configuration:

sw1-vlan30: 30.30.30.2 <http://30.30.30.2/>

sw2-vlan50: 30.30.30.1 <http://30.30.30.1/>

sw2-vlan50: 50.50.50.1 <http://50.50.50.1/>

sw3-vlan50: 50.50.50.2 <http://50.50.50.2/>

On all trunks configuration is really very simple:

switchport

switchport trunk enc dot1q

sw mode trunk

 

on vlans like:

vlan 30

ip address 30.30.30.2

switch 2.

vlan 30

ip address 30.30.30.1

vlan 50

ip address 50.50.50.1

...

 

sw1 vlan 30 int can bing vlan 3 vlan 50 int withou any default gateway or
routing configured. Proxy arp.. yes maybe.

But question is still the same:

sw3 can receive proxy arp reply from sw2 but how can it forward packet
without having any routing entry in its table? The PC can actually send a
packet out it's interface without default gateway configured if it receives
proxy arp reply. Maybe it is the same with the switch?

 

Any thoughts?

 

P.S http://www.tildefrugal.net/tech/arp.php look here what PC do if it don't
have default-gateway configured...

 

On 10/8/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:

Proxy arp is known for this "interesting behavior"

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of John
Moor
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:57 PM
To: Cisco certification
Subject: interesting behaviour of the switches

Hello, guys!
I have mentioned interesting behaviour. Could you pleas confirm this or tell
that this is incorrect?
sw1-vlan30-------vlan30-sw2-vlan50------------------vlan50--sw3

Between sw1,sw2 and sw3 is just a simple dot1q trunk.
Configuration:
sw1-vlan30: 30.30.30.2
sw2-vlan50: 30.30.30.1
sw2-vlan50: 50.50.50.1
sw3-vlan50: 50.50.50.2

I can ping from 50.50.50.2 to 30.30.30.2 even without configuring
default-gateway on sw 3. I assume that it happenes because when sw3 doesn't

know the route it just broadcasts the ip packet and the same does sw1 in
opposite to the router.

Is it correct? Or there is some other explanation of this. Thank you.



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