From: Scott Vermillion (scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com)
Date: Fri Oct 05 2007 - 13:53:32 ART
Hey Joe,
I always appreciate (and heed) advice given by those who have gone before
me...
Thanks as always,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Brunner [mailto:joe@affirmedsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:48 AM
To: 'Scott Vermillion'; 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Grace Simon'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Using the documentation CD
>Honestly, sometimes, it doesn't seem to make any sense where Cisco has
stashed certain things
Scott, given the mindless often bad examples in the DocCD, I decided long
ago it was written the express purpose of the CCIE lab. It does not give you
much help unless you already know the technology.
Of course I can't go into specifics, but I bombed on something in the real
lab, came home and figured it out. Then compared the way it worked to the
doc cd. You would not have liked their example one bit.
Be prepared to take the lab, without the doc cd. Use debugs instead.
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Vermillion
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:13 PM
To: 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Grace Simon'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Using the documentation CD
Gary,
I have been using the DocCD almost exclusively since switching from written
to lab studies. I make it a point to read what the DocCD has to say before
beginning any kind of lab work. Thus, sometimes 10 pages of labs takes me
an entire day. I do not use Google or any of that. I poke around until I
find what I'm after and I do not give up under any circumstances. Honestly,
sometimes, it doesn't seem to make any sense where Cisco has stashed certain
things. After a little better than a month of studies now, I am just
beginning to feel as though I know my way around. Of course, I haven't done
any switching labs for a few weeks now and I've already forgotten much of
what I learned about navigating the Catalyst side of the house. But through
repetition I'll pick that back up quickly. It may only be good for a few
points, but if it makes the difference between a 78 and an 80, I'm sure it
will have been worth the extra effort...
Regards,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Duncanson
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 5:30 AM
To: Grace Simon
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Using the documentation CD
Im starting to use the www.cisco.com/univercd link.
Any tips of how to search around for stuff properly?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grace Simon" <SimonG@pcsystems.gr>
To: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>; "devecchio turner"
<dt30083@gmail.com>; "John" <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:14 AM
Subject: RE: Using the documentation CD
> The DocCD is a bit of a black art to me and I work along the lines of
> knowing the stuff and the DocCD is there as a last resort or just to
> double check something.
>
> Depending on the lab, you are very, very tight for time so you don't
> have much spare to read up on things you are not sure of.
>
> BUT!!!, one thing I found strange but then found a way around.
>
> Under 12.4 you only get Master index for Commands but not for
> Configuration (as far as I can tell)...but if you go to 12.2, you get a
> master index for both which helps you find the right sections via manual
> method in 12.4 instead of having to drill down in different sections to
> find the info you need by trail and error.
>
> I hope that makes sense.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Joseph Brunner
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 8:16 AM
> To: 'devecchio turner'; 'John'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Using the documentation CD
>
> You'll probably get some points from the doc cd in the lab... I did...
>
> But you wont get enough to pass! You need to know the technologies cold,
> and
> the very sneaky intricate ways to describe their functions, and how they
> inter-relate.
>
> The CCIE lab is more than just surf the doc cd very fast... I used to
> think
> I could look anything up... I'm studying now for memorization. The
> debugs
> will be more help on your day than the doc cd...
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> devecchio turner
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:45 AM
> To: John; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Using the documentation CD
>
> Not sure what u r looking for as ur question is vague.. He only thing I
> can
> tell you is to go to www.cisco.com/univercd and start clicking away..
> Usually if you see it once or twice..u'll be fine..i've gotten to the
> point
> where I can find most stuff in a 5 clicks or less....
>
>
>
>
> On 10/4/07 11:58 PM, "John" <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> This is the redirect for the doc CD
>> http://www.cisco.com/web/psa/products/index.html
>>
>> I'm having trouble looking for config help. I know I'm missing
> something.
>> I'm probably making it harder then it needs to be, I'm king at that.
> So
> any
>> tips, tricks, etc... please feel free to help a brother out. I really
> need to
>> be able to find what I want when I want it.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John
>>
>>
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