From: peter morgan (cciemaha@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 2007 - 05:39:04 ART
I am waiting here to see Brian's reply....
----- Original Message ----
From:
Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: darth router
<darklordrouter@gmail.com>
Cc: peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; Joseph
Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>; ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:59:24 AM
Subject:
RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
I would think something more
entertaining like sumo-suit wrestling would be more appropriate. :)
From:
darth router [mailto:darklordrouter@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 17,
2007 12:17 AM
To: smorris@ipexpert.com
Cc: peter morgan; Joseph Brunner;
ccie784; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Scott,
I think you and Brian Dennis should arm wrestle for the title of
greatest multi IE.
DR
On 9/16/07, Scott Morris < smorris@ipexpert.com>
wrote:
Thanks, but I will respectfully decline your offer at this point. I
have other priorities between work and family that are pushing the Voice CCIE
to a back burner.
I have no aversion to being a Quint CCIE, but what value
does it bring me? IPexpert already has two very well-experienced Voice CCIE
instructors, so it would make no sense for me to teach that class. As it
stands, I am already a fairly unique individual in the world and I will end up
getting the Voice CCIE at some point in time, but right now it makes no sense
to put any undue notice or pressure in the mix.
Besides, in all honesty, if
I was that concerned about public attention or anything like that as a
motivation to passing the CCIE, >I< would have challenged Brian Dennis. :)
But it's not on my priority list at the moment. I passed the written in
January, so I have a year and half to take it, and if I don't I'll just take
the written again. Not the end of the world.
Thanks for the challenge
though and the idea of motivation, but at this point in time I will decline
the offer and simply wish you the best of luck in your preparations! Don't
forget to let us all know how you do in your studies/lab!
Cheers,
Scott
Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE #153 ,
CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept
Learning Credits!
smorris@ipexpert.com
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax:
+1.810.454.0130
http://www.ipexpert.com
From: peter morgan [mailto:
cciemaha@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:55 PM
To:
smorris@ipexpert.com ; Joseph Brunner; darth router
Cc: ccie784;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Hi
Scott,
I still haven't booked a lab dateI was waiting for your response to
find a LAB date.
But don't tell me that you have not taken the challenge
because you are busy. I think, I am busy as you or Wayne. May be busier than
you & him. Because we all have same limited time per day or week. So it is
just a functional difference.
Also, based on my understanding you are
working as a CCIE instructor, Content developer & Consultant. So you always
have educational touch & playing with Cisco equipments. In addition to that
keep in mind that you are Quadruple CCIE. Why don't you like to be a Penta
CCIE?
One more important thing to highlight here; it may be valuable for
others. With our Cisco voice implementations we are implementing best
practices. But CCIE exam is not an implementation/configuration exam of best
practices. It may or may not include best practices. Therefore even if you
have worked in the field for 10 years then you may not have enough confidence
to pass the LAB. If we need to pass the LAB without much hassle we have to
directly target to the exam.
Scott, I know you are talented gentlemen; so
please don't hide behind your boss (Wayne)! Come out & take my challenge . it
may be good for your future!
I am really sorry that, if I am troubling you
with this challenge; but try your best to accept it.
Rdgs,
PM
-----
Original Message ----
From: Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: peter
morgan < cciemaha@yahoo.com>; Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>; darth
router < darklordrouter@gmail.com>
Cc: ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:02:21 AM
Subject:
RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
hehehhe... You make it sound so quaint
and black & white. :)
Now, multi-millionaire or not, I'm sure you (or
anyone) could agree that one person who works with voice stuff every single
day may very well have an advantage over someone who doesn't, no matter how
smart the other person is.... But that's ok.
I'm sure there are others out
there who may be interested in taking your challenge, perhaps those
underprepared but with more free time on their hands, or simply those who may
have more recent hands-on/in-depth experience in order to compete with a
"full-time Cisco Voice engineer".
There are ways to get products without
investing money, but it typically involves some value-add proposition for both
sides. Other than bragging rights, and just personal challenge, I have no
need to get my Voice CCIE (it's pissed me off enough ruining my average!) but
I'm sure you can find others up to your challenge with a more vested interest,
or business necessity to get their CCIE.
Generally, relationships start at
the proper point in any business and progress from there. I'm thinking that
targeting the CEO of any company, unless that person is more directly involved
in the CCIE stuff, would not be the best place to start unless there was some
win-win that could be had. So Darth, if your (or anyone else's) target is
finding a way to work for products then we can always work on coming up with
something of value.
So Peter, when's your lab date?
Scott Morris, CCIE4
(R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE #153 , CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
IPexpert Sr.
Technical Instructor
A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
smorris@ipexpert.com
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
http://www.ipexpert.com
From: peter morgan [mailto: cciemaha@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 4:24 PM
To: Joseph Brunner;
smorris@ipexpert.com ; darth router
Cc: ccie784; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Hi Guys,
This is to inform
you that; Scott is not in a position to accept my challenge since his boss
(Wayne Lawson President-IPExpert Inc. ) contacted me & updated me that, he
has not authorized to use his products (IPExpert) for this challenge. Also he
confirmed that, Scott is not a Multi-Millionaire. I read little bit about
Wayne & his activities. I found following URL from google.
http://www.ipexpert.com/?event=staff&staffid=8769
Then I was thinking to
challenge him rather than challenging Scott since he has the CCIE & he has the
power to give us the free access. But he is a big shot & may be busy gentlemen
with his business.
So guys, you will not be able to get free access for
IPExpert products. If this goes fine then I would have win it; because I am a
full-time Cisco Voice engineer.
Darth, it may be better if you write to
Wayne rather than troubling Scott. Because Wayne may be the correct gentlemen,
who has the power to give a free copy of their SP WB.
Finally, I have to
forget about the challenge & start my studies alone. I will update you time to
time with my Voice studies. But I guess there is a different GS group for
Voice. Let's check it outI hope, I can get my Voice baby in less than four
(4) attempts....
Regards,
PM
----- Original Message ----
From:
Joseph Brunner < joe@affirmedsystems.com>
To: peter morgan
<cciemaha@yahoo.com>; smorris@ipexpert.com; darth router
<darklordrouter@gmail.com>
Cc: ccie784 < ccie784@googlemail.com>;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:51:38 AM
Subject:
RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Whoa!
Scott probably actually a
multi-millionaire, given the lab that requires a
permit from his local power
plant to drain that much power... But he is not
the richest CCIE. That is Tom
Cruise, the actor, and number 3 ranking member
of Scientology. He is worth
approx $800M USD and he is a CCIE, or so I
heard... for real... I heard he
chose it as one of his challenges to reach
OT VII.
-----Original
Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of
peter morgan
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:07 PM
To:
smorris@ipexpert.com ; darth router
Cc: ccie784; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Hi Scott,
I know you are a
multi millionaire & one of Quadruple CCIEs. And I
am a small fish who has got
the number in my fourth attempt. Here is my
challenge;
You dont have voice in
your bunch of sticks. I am starting voice
from today onwards.
If I get my
Voice before you get it then you have to give
free access to all of your
products (IPExpert), to ten (10) of our GS
members.
If you get the Voice
before I get it then I will buy your Voice product
(Considering I am a poor
guy & you are a multimillionaire).
Do you accept my
challenge?
If you
accept it then both us will get benefits by completing
Voice & hopefully ten
(10) of our GS members..
Have a nice week end,
PM
----- Original Message
---- From: Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com > To: peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; darth router < darklordrouter@gmail.com> Cc: ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:01:14 PM Subject: RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807) Isn't there a special "because you hang out with us" discount? :) There are monthly specials and different discounts offered all the time, but as a general rule the sales folks set those rules. Remember, it can never hurt to ask for something like that. The worst they can do is laugh at you! ;)On a side note, congratulations Peter!
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al. CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits! smorris@ipexpert.com
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Fax: +1.810.454.0130 http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message----- From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of peter morgan Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:09 AM To: darth router Cc: ccie784; ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
No Man! It is a joke...
Brian, Scott think about to give free access or better discounts to all of GS members (including DR & me) May be your gentlemen will have close IE & IPexpert becuase most of CCIE candidates are GS members.
I think Brain already given it to me. So I may be out of selection...I am waiting till IE voice products release....
PM
----- Original Message ---- From: darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> To: peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com> Cc: ccie784 < ccie784@googlemail.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:57:48 PM Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
LOL!
On 9/14/07, peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com > wrote: Thanks Darth!
You r a real naughty boy!
You r always looking at the back side of girls!
Brian, Scott don"t give him anything free; because he is a naughty boy (Not like me)!
Peter
----- Original Message ---- From: darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com > To: ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com > Cc: peter morgan < cciemaha@yahoo.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:16:39 PM Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807) Grats man on the CCIE man!
So all we gotta do for free stuff is complain! Brian, I could use some free stuff! I will gladly complain!. Scott Morris, could you please get on this bandwagon as well? I would like your service provider workbook! :)
DR
On 9/14/07, ccie784 < ccie784@googlemail.com> wrote: Congratulation !! Nice post. IE is great vendor, no doubt!!
On 9/14/07, peter morgan < cciemaha@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > I was able to catch my fish in 10th September 2007. Got my green > number (18807) in my 4th attempt. I have never given up & keep on doing > the > exam. Here is my small story. It is like a fairy tail. > > I have passed my > first R&S Written in May 2004. Then it has expired after 18 months without > taking an attempt. Then I got a free Cisco partner voucher from my office > & > used it to get my written back in Feb 2006. I was keeping on study from > there > onwards & I was able to take few months of continuous leave from my office > for > the exam. But I was not in confidence to sit for the exam in 2006. I came > to > another country for a new job. I got lots of free time after I changed my > job > & then started to study in a schedule. > > Finally I have decided to take & LAB > attempt in April 2007. It was a disaster for me. Also I was not able reach > the > LAB location in the correct time because the CAB driver was not able to > find > the place & he lost the way. I lost around 50mins in my first attempt. I > have > taken another attempt in May 2007 thinking that I failed because of short > of > time. > > For my 2nd attempt I have booked a hotel very close (Walking > Distance) to the LAB location. I went the LAB before 30mins earlier. But > it > was another disaster. Then I realized that I am lack of knowledge. Then I > have > stared to re-read many of books & bought one of famous vendors work book. > Previously I have been using their old work books which has download from > a > free site. Then after few months I went back to the LAB. > > My 3rd attempt > scheduled in Aug 2007. I booked same hotel & went early to the place. I > was > able to understand many of questions & was able to answer properly. But I > sucked in few occasions because of my mistakes & taken time to recover > from > them. After the LAB I got the same result (Failed). > > Then I came back & > written down all of my mistakes. I was able to identify my main weakness > as > the lack of hands on practice & not the knowledge. So I have decided to > buy > rack sessions from IE & I have booked racks in every day & week ends > double or > triple rack sessions. I have studied with less number of sleeping hours > (4-5 > hours per day). Also I got another schedule for the LAB on 10th September > 2007. So I have studied very hardly without even taking proper sleep. I > think > your guys can remember one of my previous posts of IE rack support issue > . I > was not able to find the place to get support at that time from IE. But > Brian > & his great IE staff guided me & cleared my issue. Then next day morning I > have realized that I have addressed the case not nicely & apologize from > Brian. Because I was in different mind set when I was doing my practice > labs. > Then Brian sent me & email with telling that he has decided to stop > posting to > GS because of the > threats of people like me. I got really upset because I knew that there > are > many candidates in GS like me who are expecting support from people like > Brian, Scott & other senior CCIEs. So I begged him & apologize from him > with > many emails. Finally he accepted my apology. By the time Brian asked me to > provide details of the products which I have bought from IE. Because he > was > thinking to provide more support via his sales team. Actually I haven t > bought > any of products from IE & I was using one of my friend s old IE materials. > But > anyway I was thinking to buy their COD within few days because many people > recommended it. Then I have sent few package selections which I am > expecting > to buy from IE, expecting a good discount. But in a nice morning I checked > my > mail box & found an email from Brian. He has given access to IE WB VOL I, > VOL > II, VOL III, and Advanced Technology COD & also Online Boot Camp. Brian > has > gone ahead & given me the access to above > materials free of charge. Also he has doubled my rack sessions by his > sales > team. Also he asked me that, if I want more products then to update him. I > was > not able to believe this & get upset about what I have done by sending > email > to GS complaining their rack support. I told Brian that I will do > anything to > recover the damage which I was trying to do by posting it un-necessarily > to GS > (They have great/quick support option in IE member area named as ticketing > system. I was not aware about the option previously. They provide support > within few minutes when you get an error). But Brian just wanted to pass > the > exam with his gift. He never expected anything from me. I was really upset > about what was happened & thinking about Brian s good heart. So, Brian > requested only my pass of exam. I have decided to pass my exam anyhow in > 10th > September 2007. I worked very hardly & never slept some days. I used Brian > s > gift-rack sessions, COD materials, etc .I > have scheduled many racks (Actually I have scheduled one in the LAB day > morning as well). So I was doing my rack practice & study without > considering > about any other thing. I haven t called to my friends, family members & > forgot > many my personal life activities. But I went to office in every week day > as > usual. When I got a free time then I started to listen to IE COD. Finally > I > got sick because of the lack of sleep. I got a dynamic toothache (Changing > from one place to another place day by day) & a painful skin rash. I haven > t > gone to meet a doctor (I have free health insurance from company). I used > detol for the tooth ache & decided to take medicine after the exam. I have > kept on study forgetting about the pain. > > The day was 9th September 2007, I > have traveled to Dubai. Stay in the same hotel (Tulip Inn- Knowledge > Village). > I have entered the hotel 11.00PM in the night. Slept till 5.00AM in the > next > day (Lab Day) morning. After a wash I I have practiced 30 minutes with my > scheduled IE rack. Then I walked to the Cisco Building; Went to 3rd floor > as > usual. I was the first one came to the place. So three of other candidates > were there later. One of Indian girl, also among the candidates. Procter > (Yosuf) called us to come in to the LAB 5 minutes earlier. He explained > the > next schedule. One candidate came in to the LAB 30 mins later because his > driver taken him a ride. I have started the LAB as I planned earlier. Read > all > the LAB book & drawn few diagrams. It has taken 30 mins for me. Suddenly I > got > something like de-hydration in the LAB & I drunken water in many times. > Also > went toilet many times. (May be side effects of my previous hard study). > Procter called for the lunch; I was just in my schedule. So we had good > lunch > with procter s advice. Yosuf (Dubai Procter) is really nice gentlemen. > Because > four of my attempts I have seen him handling candidates nicely. > > So, after > the lunch I have scored many points with fast typing. As I planned final > hour > used for the testing. I used Brian s score sheet method. Based on Brian s > score sheet my score was 96. May be 100 because I have not revised my > answers > when I come back. I knew that I have 16 marks buffer. > > After the exam I went > to Dubai City centre & bought few items. I was stuck there in the long > taxi > queue. Finally I was able catch my flight & came back. I have logged into > the > site & found that my number & pass. I was not able sleep & next day went > to > office as usual. I sent my first email to Brian but he has not replied > yet. > May be he has not received my email or he has blocked me because of so > many > emails sent by me. > > So guys my advice is work hard & gets it with your > effort. Don t wait till your number comes to you. Just work hard & get it. > I > have taken four attempts & I got four different LABS. So it has not > repeated > to me. So don t expect it. Some people saying that it has happened to > them; > but it may be very rare case. One person asked same question from Procter > & he > told that there are many LABs. But sometimes they may repeat. > > I can only > recommend IE materials & Racks because I have passed with them & Brian s > good > hart. I have no words to thank Brian & IE. Thanks a million tims ..to > Brian & > IE. > > Believe me Brian is a really good hatred man!!!!!!!!!! He is a really > sensitive person. Brian my hat s off to you for nice preparing material & > support! > > Note: Guys, don t post any un-necessary emails to GS or Brian by > following me to get free IE products. I still feel bad about what I have > done > even after I got my number. Actually I was in another mentality & > different > world when I am posting that complain to GS. ( I can say that was not me > that > was my dark side of the mind). Sorry guys! > > Finally I must thank to GS; > without GS I will never get anything for this year. > > Thanks to all the GS > members for the being here. I learnt a lot from your discussions. > > Bye for > now, > > PM > CCIE # 18807 > >
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