From: Brian Dennis (bdennis@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 2007 - 14:06:33 ART
Of course there is more to the story as to exactly why he was
"helped" but yes I did help him out. I do make special
considerations for people in certain situations.
Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
Toll Free: 877-224-8987
Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
On Sep 14, 2007, at 5:59 AM, Scott Morris wrote:
> Heheheehh... I'm going to assume there were other things in the
> background.
> Complaining or talking loudly does not get anyone free materials!
> Otherwise, I would think everyone would just complain! The catch
> is to
> target your audience and work something out!
>
> If you want free materials, provide a service to the vendors.
> Contact the
> various sales folks and come up with some worthwhile business
> proposal about
> testing/reviewing/updating their products during your studies. No
> matter
> how good anything is, it can always use improvement and a different
> perspective. But it's important to make the vendor think they are
> getting
> something out of it as well!
>
> No sense being naughty though! :)
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>
> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
>
> smorris@ipexpert.com
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf Of
> peter morgan
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:36 AM
> To: darth router; ccie784
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
>
> Thanks Darth!
>
> You r a real naughty boy!
>
> You r always looking at the back
> side of girls!
>
> Brian, Scott don"t give him anything free; because he is a naughty
> boy (Not
> like me)!
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: darth
> router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> To: ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
> Cc:
> peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday,
> September 14, 2007 2:16:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807) Grats man on the CCIE
> man!
>
> So all we gotta do for free stuff is complain!
> Brian, I could use some free stuff! I will gladly complain!. Scott
> Morris,
> could you please get on this bandwagon as well? I would like your
> service
> provider workbook! :)
>
> DR
>
>
> On 9/14/07, ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> Congratulation !! Nice post. IE is great vendor, no doubt!!
>
> On
> 9/14/07, peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I was able
> to catch my fish in 10th September 2007. Got my green
>> number (18807) in my
> 4th attempt. I have never given up & keep on doing
>> the
>> exam. Here is my
> small story. It is like a fairy tail.
>>
>> I have passed my
>> first R&S Written
> in May 2004. Then it has expired after 18 months without
>> taking an attempt.
> Then I got a free Cisco partner voucher from my office
>> &
>> used it to get my
> written back in Feb 2006. I was keeping on study from
>> there
>> onwards & I
> was able to take few months of continuous leave from my office
>> for
>> the
> exam. But I was not in confidence to sit for the exam in 2006. I came
>> to
>>
> another country for a new job. I got lots of free time after I
> changed my
>>
> job
>> & then started to study in a schedule.
>>
>> Finally I have decided to
> take & LAB
>> attempt in April 2007. It was a disaster for me. Also I was not
> able reach
>> the
>> LAB location in the correct time because the CAB driver was
> not able to
>> find
>> the place & he lost the way. I lost around 50mins in my
> first attempt. I
>> have
>> taken another attempt in May 2007 thinking that I
> failed because of short
>> of
>> time.
>>
>> For my 2nd attempt I have booked a
> hotel very close (Walking
>> Distance) to the LAB location. I went the LAB
> before 30mins earlier. But
>> it
>> was another disaster. Then I realized that I
> am lack of knowledge. Then I
>> have
>> stared to re-read many of books &
> bought one of famous vendors work book.
>> Previously I have been using their
> old work books which has download from
>> a
>> free site. Then after few months
> I went back to the LAB.
>>
>> My 3rd attempt
>> scheduled in Aug 2007. I booked
> same hotel & went early to the place. I
>> was
>> able to understand many of
> questions & was able to answer properly. But I
>> sucked in few occasions
> because of my mistakes & taken time to recover
>> from
>> them. After the LAB I
> got the same result (Failed).
>>
>> Then I came back &
>> written down all of my
> mistakes. I was able to identify my main weakness
>> as
>> the lack of hands on
> practice & not the knowledge. So I have decided to
>> buy
>> rack sessions from
> IE & I have booked racks in every day & week ends
>> double or
>> triple rack
> sessions. I have studied with less number of sleeping hours
>> (4-5
>> hours per
> day). Also I got another schedule for the LAB on 10th September
>> 2007. So I
> have studied very hardly without even taking proper sleep. I
>> think
>> your
> guys can remember one of my previous posts of IE rack support issue
>> . I
>>
> was not able to find the place to get support at that time from IE.
> But
>>
> Brian
>> & his great IE staff guided me & cleared my issue. Then next day
> morning I
>> have realized that I have addressed the case not nicely &
> apologize from
>> Brian. Because I was in different mind set when I was doing
> my practice
>> labs.
>> Then Brian sent me & email with telling that he has
> decided to stop
>> posting to
>> GS because of the
>> threats of people like me.
> I got really upset because I knew that there
>> are
>> many candidates in GS
> like me who are expecting support from people like
>> Brian, Scott & other
> senior CCIEs. So I begged him & apologize from him
>> with
>> many emails.
> Finally he accepted my apology. By the time Brian asked me to
>> provide
> details of the products which I have bought from IE. Because he
>> was
>>
> thinking to provide more support via his sales team. Actually I
> haven t
>>
> bought
>> any of products from IE & I was using one of my friend s old IE
> materials.
>> But
>> anyway I was thinking to buy their COD within few days
> because many people
>> recommended it. Then I have sent few package selections
> which I am
>> expecting
>> to buy from IE, expecting a good discount. But in a
> nice morning I checked
>> my
>> mail box & found an email from Brian. He has
> given access to IE WB VOL I,
>> VOL
>> II, VOL III, and Advanced Technology COD
> & also Online Boot Camp. Brian
>> has
>> gone ahead & given me the access to
> above
>> materials free of charge. Also he has doubled my rack sessions by his
>> sales team. Also he asked me that, if I want more products then to
>> update
> him. I
>> was
>> not able to believe this & get upset about what I have done by
> sending
>> email
>> to GS complaining their rack support. I told Brian that I
> will do
>> anything to
>> recover the damage which I was trying to do by posting
> it un-necessarily
>> to GS
>> (They have great/quick support option in IE member
> area named as ticketing
>> system. I was not aware about the option
> previously. They provide support
>> within few minutes when you get an error).
> But Brian just wanted to pass
>> the
>> exam with his gift. He never expected
> anything from me. I was really upset
>> about what was happened & thinking
> about Brian s good heart. So, Brian
>> requested only my pass of exam. I have
> decided to pass my exam anyhow in
>> 10th
>> September 2007. I worked very
> hardly & never slept some days. I used Brian
>> s
>> gift-rack sessions, COD
> materials, etc .I
>> have scheduled many racks (Actually I have scheduled one
> in the LAB day
>> morning as well). So I was doing my rack practice & study
> without
>> considering
>> about any other thing. I haven t called to my friends,
> family members &
>> forgot
>> many my personal life activities. But I went to
> office in every week day
>> as
>> usual. When I got a free time then I started
> to listen to IE COD. Finally
>> I
>> got sick because of the lack of sleep. I
> got a dynamic toothache (Changing
>> from one place to another place day by
> day) & a painful skin rash. I haven
>> t
>> gone to meet a doctor (I have free
> health insurance from company). I used
>> detol for the tooth ache & decided
> to take medicine after the exam. I have
>> kept on study forgetting about the
> pain.
>>
>> The day was 9th September 2007, I
>> have traveled to Dubai. Stay in
> the same hotel (Tulip Inn- Knowledge
>> Village).
>> I have entered the hotel
> 11.00PM in the night. Slept till 5.00AM in the
>> next
>> day (Lab Day) morning.
> After a wash I I have practiced 30 minutes with my
>> scheduled IE rack. Then I
> walked to the Cisco Building; Went to 3rd floor
>> as
>> usual. I was the first
> one came to the place. So three of other candidates
>> were there later. One of
> Indian girl, also among the candidates. Procter
>> (Yosuf) called us to come in
> to the LAB 5 minutes earlier. He explained
>> the
>> next schedule. One
> candidate came in to the LAB 30 mins later because his
>> driver taken him a
> ride. I have started the LAB as I planned earlier. Read
>> all
>> the LAB book &
> drawn few diagrams. It has taken 30 mins for me. Suddenly I
>> got
>> something
> like de-hydration in the LAB & I drunken water in many times.
>> Also
>> went
> toilet many times. (May be side effects of my previous hard study).
>> Procter
> called for the lunch; I was just in my schedule. So we had good
>> lunch
>>
> with procter s advice. Yosuf (Dubai Procter) is really nice gentlemen.
>>
> Because
>> four of my attempts I have seen him handling candidates nicely.
>>
>>
> So, after
>> the lunch I have scored many points with fast typing. As I planned
> final
>> hour
>> used for the testing. I used Brian s score sheet method. Based
> on Brian s
>> score sheet my score was 96. May be 100 because I have not
> revised my
>> answers
>> when I come back. I knew that I have 16 marks buffer.
>>
>> After the exam I went
>> to Dubai City centre & bought few items. I was
> stuck there in the long
>> taxi
>> queue. Finally I was able catch my flight &
> came back. I have logged into
>> the
>> site & found that my number & pass. I
> was not able sleep & next day went
>> to
>> office as usual. I sent my first
> email to Brian but he has not replied
>> yet.
>> May be he has not received my
> email or he has blocked me because of so
>> many
>> emails sent by me.
>>
>> So
> guys my advice is work hard & gets it with your
>> effort. Don t wait till your
> number comes to you. Just work hard & get it.
>> I
>> have taken four attempts &
> I got four different LABS. So it has not
>> repeated
>> to me. So don t expect
> it. Some people saying that it has happened to
>> them;
>> but it may be very
> rare case. One person asked same question from Procter
>> & he
>> told that
> there are many LABs. But sometimes they may repeat.
>>
>> I can only
>>
> recommend IE materials & Racks because I have passed with them &
> Brian s
>>
> good
>> hart. I have no words to thank Brian & IE. Thanks a million
>> tims ..to
>> Brian & IE.
>>
>> Believe me Brian is a really good hatred man!!!!!!!!!! He
> is a really
>> sensitive person. Brian my hat s off to you for nice preparing
> material &
>> support!
>>
>> Note: Guys, don t post any un-necessary emails to GS
> or Brian by
>> following me to get free IE products. I still feel bad about
> what I have
>> done
>> even after I got my number. Actually I was in another
> mentality &
>> different
>> world when I am posting that complain to GS. ( I can
> say that was not me
>> that
>> was my dark side of the mind). Sorry guys!
>>
>>
> Finally I must thank to GS;
>> without GS I will never get anything for this
> year.
>>
>> Thanks to all the GS
>> members for the being here. I learnt a lot
> from your discussions.
>>
>> Bye for
>> now,
>>
>> PM
>> CCIE # 18807
>>
>>
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