From: peter morgan (cciemaha@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 2007 - 10:38:40 ART
Hi Scott,
I know what u r talking about. Actually I havent use IPExpert
study materials. So I can not tell anything about it. I just used IE materials
& their racks.
No background things as you guess. Do you mean Brian paid
xxxxx amount to tell my story??? Hehhh!!!
That is my real story. Previously
I thought not to send this email to GS because I assume that there are
misunderstanding people. Even I was having free stuff sometimes I may not able
to pass if I havent dedicated to the task. So I will never give you a chance
to let down my courage.
Anyway Thanks for the Congrats..!!!
PM
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Original Message ----
From: Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: peter
morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>; ccie784
<ccie784@googlemail.com>
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Friday, September
14, 2007 3:59:11 PM
Subject: RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Heheheehh... I'm going to assume there were other things in the background.
Complaining or talking loudly does not get anyone free materials!
Otherwise, I
would think everyone would just complain! The catch is to
target your
audience and work something out!
If you want free materials, provide a
service to the vendors. Contact the
various sales folks and come up with some
worthwhile business proposal about
testing/reviewing/updating their products
during your studies. No matter
how good anything is, it can always use
improvement and a different
perspective. But it's important to make the
vendor think they are getting
something out of it as well!
No sense being
naughty though! :)
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
VP - Technical
Training - IPexpert, Inc.
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
A Cisco Learning
Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
Telephone:
+1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
http://www.ipexpert.com
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Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of
peter morgan
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:36 AM
To: darth
router; ccie784
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Tough Achievement
(CCIE # 18807)
Thanks Darth!
You r a real naughty boy!
You r always looking
at the back
side of girls!
Brian, Scott don"t give him anything free; because
he is a naughty boy (Not
like me)!
Peter
----- Original Message ----
From:
darth
router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
To: ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
Cc:
peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Friday,
September 14, 2007 2:16:39 PM
Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Grats man on the CCIE man!
So all we gotta do for free stuff is complain!
Brian, I could use some free stuff! I will gladly complain!. Scott Morris,
could you please get on this bandwagon as well? I would like your service
provider workbook! :)
DR
On 9/14/07, ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
wrote:
Congratulation !! Nice post. IE is great vendor, no doubt!!
On
9/14/07, peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I was able
to catch my fish in 10th September 2007. Got my green
> number (18807) in my
4th attempt. I have never given up & keep on doing
> the
> exam. Here is my
small story. It is like a fairy tail.
>
> I have passed my
> first R&S Written
in May 2004. Then it has expired after 18 months without
> taking an attempt.
Then I got a free Cisco partner voucher from my office
> &
> used it to get my
written back in Feb 2006. I was keeping on study from
> there
> onwards & I
was able to take few months of continuous leave from my office
> for
> the
exam. But I was not in confidence to sit for the exam in 2006. I came
> to
>
another country for a new job. I got lots of free time after I changed my
>
job
> & then started to study in a schedule.
>
> Finally I have decided to
take & LAB
> attempt in April 2007. It was a disaster for me. Also I was not
able reach
> the
> LAB location in the correct time because the CAB driver was
not able to
> find
> the place & he lost the way. I lost around 50mins in my
first attempt. I
> have
> taken another attempt in May 2007 thinking that I
failed because of short
> of
> time.
>
> For my 2nd attempt I have booked a
hotel very close (Walking
> Distance) to the LAB location. I went the LAB
before 30mins earlier. But
> it
> was another disaster. Then I realized that I
am lack of knowledge. Then I
> have
> stared to re-read many of books &
bought one of famous vendors work book.
> Previously I have been using their
old work books which has download from
> a
> free site. Then after few months
I went back to the LAB.
>
> My 3rd attempt
> scheduled in Aug 2007. I booked
same hotel & went early to the place. I
> was
> able to understand many of
questions & was able to answer properly. But I
> sucked in few occasions
because of my mistakes & taken time to recover
> from
> them. After the LAB I
got the same result (Failed).
>
> Then I came back &
> written down all of my
mistakes. I was able to identify my main weakness
> as
> the lack of hands on
practice & not the knowledge. So I have decided to
> buy
> rack sessions from
IE & I have booked racks in every day & week ends
> double or
> triple rack
sessions. I have studied with less number of sleeping hours
> (4-5
> hours per
day). Also I got another schedule for the LAB on 10th September
> 2007. So I
have studied very hardly without even taking proper sleep. I
> think
> your
guys can remember one of my previous posts of IE rack support issue
> . I
>
was not able to find the place to get support at that time from IE. But
>
Brian
> & his great IE staff guided me & cleared my issue. Then next day
morning I
> have realized that I have addressed the case not nicely &
apologize from
> Brian. Because I was in different mind set when I was doing
my practice
> labs.
> Then Brian sent me & email with telling that he has
decided to stop
> posting to
> GS because of the
> threats of people like me.
I got really upset because I knew that there
> are
> many candidates in GS
like me who are expecting support from people like
> Brian, Scott & other
senior CCIEs. So I begged him & apologize from him
> with
> many emails.
Finally he accepted my apology. By the time Brian asked me to
> provide
details of the products which I have bought from IE. Because he
> was
>
thinking to provide more support via his sales team. Actually I haven t
>
bought
> any of products from IE & I was using one of my friend s old IE
materials.
> But
> anyway I was thinking to buy their COD within few days
because many people
> recommended it. Then I have sent few package selections
which I am
> expecting
> to buy from IE, expecting a good discount. But in a
nice morning I checked
> my
> mail box & found an email from Brian. He has
given access to IE WB VOL I,
> VOL
> II, VOL III, and Advanced Technology COD
& also Online Boot Camp. Brian
> has
> gone ahead & given me the access to
above
> materials free of charge. Also he has doubled my rack sessions by his
> sales team. Also he asked me that, if I want more products then to
> update
him. I
> was
> not able to believe this & get upset about what I have done by
sending
> email
> to GS complaining their rack support. I told Brian that I
will do
> anything to
> recover the damage which I was trying to do by posting
it un-necessarily
> to GS
> (They have great/quick support option in IE member
area named as ticketing
> system. I was not aware about the option
previously. They provide support
> within few minutes when you get an error).
But Brian just wanted to pass
> the
> exam with his gift. He never expected
anything from me. I was really upset
> about what was happened & thinking
about Brian s good heart. So, Brian
> requested only my pass of exam. I have
decided to pass my exam anyhow in
> 10th
> September 2007. I worked very
hardly & never slept some days. I used Brian
> s
> gift-rack sessions, COD
materials, etc .I
> have scheduled many racks (Actually I have scheduled one
in the LAB day
> morning as well). So I was doing my rack practice & study
without
> considering
> about any other thing. I haven t called to my friends,
family members &
> forgot
> many my personal life activities. But I went to
office in every week day
> as
> usual. When I got a free time then I started
to listen to IE COD. Finally
> I
> got sick because of the lack of sleep. I
got a dynamic toothache (Changing
> from one place to another place day by
day) & a painful skin rash. I haven
> t
> gone to meet a doctor (I have free
health insurance from company). I used
> detol for the tooth ache & decided
to take medicine after the exam. I have
> kept on study forgetting about the
pain.
>
> The day was 9th September 2007, I
> have traveled to Dubai. Stay in
the same hotel (Tulip Inn- Knowledge
> Village).
> I have entered the hotel
11.00PM in the night. Slept till 5.00AM in the
> next
> day (Lab Day) morning.
After a wash I I have practiced 30 minutes with my
> scheduled IE rack. Then I
walked to the Cisco Building; Went to 3rd floor
> as
> usual. I was the first
one came to the place. So three of other candidates
> were there later. One of
Indian girl, also among the candidates. Procter
> (Yosuf) called us to come in
to the LAB 5 minutes earlier. He explained
> the
> next schedule. One
candidate came in to the LAB 30 mins later because his
> driver taken him a
ride. I have started the LAB as I planned earlier. Read
> all
> the LAB book &
drawn few diagrams. It has taken 30 mins for me. Suddenly I
> got
> something
like de-hydration in the LAB & I drunken water in many times.
> Also
> went
toilet many times. (May be side effects of my previous hard study).
> Procter
called for the lunch; I was just in my schedule. So we had good
> lunch
>
with procter s advice. Yosuf (Dubai Procter) is really nice gentlemen.
>
Because
> four of my attempts I have seen him handling candidates nicely.
>
>
So, after
> the lunch I have scored many points with fast typing. As I planned
final
> hour
> used for the testing. I used Brian s score sheet method. Based
on Brian s
> score sheet my score was 96. May be 100 because I have not
revised my
> answers
> when I come back. I knew that I have 16 marks buffer.
>
> After the exam I went
> to Dubai City centre & bought few items. I was
stuck
there in the long
> taxi
> queue. Finally I was able catch my flight &
came
back. I have logged into
> the
> site & found that my number & pass. I
was not
able sleep & next day went
> to
> office as usual. I sent my first
email to
Brian but he has not replied
> yet.
> May be he has not received my
email or
he has blocked me because of so
> many
> emails sent by me.
>
> So
guys my
advice is work hard & gets it with your
> effort. Don t wait till your
number
comes to you. Just work hard & get it.
> I
> have taken four attempts &
I got
four different LABS. So it has not
> repeated
> to me. So don t expect
it.
Some people saying that it has happened to
> them;
> but it may be very
rare
case. One person asked same question from Procter
> & he
> told that
there are
many LABs. But sometimes they may repeat.
>
> I can only
>
recommend IE
materials & Racks because I have passed with them & Brian s
>
good
> hart. I
have no words to thank Brian & IE. Thanks a million tims ..to
> Brian & IE.
>
> Believe me Brian is a really good hatred man!!!!!!!!!! He
is a really
>
sensitive person. Brian my hat s off to you for nice preparing
material &
>
support!
>
> Note: Guys, don t post any un-necessary emails to GS
or Brian by
> following me to get free IE products. I still feel bad about
what I have
>
done
> even after I got my number. Actually I was in another
mentality &
>
different
> world when I am posting that complain to GS. ( I can
say that was
not me
> that
> was my dark side of the mind). Sorry guys!
>
>
Finally I must
thank to GS;
> without GS I will never get anything for this
year.
>
> Thanks
to all the GS
> members for the being here. I learnt a lot
from your
discussions.
>
> Bye for
> now,
>
> PM
> CCIE # 18807
>
>
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