From: Brad Ellis (brad@ccbootcamp.com)
Date: Mon Sep 10 2007 - 01:40:32 ART
George,
I agree with Scott. I think that while MPLS might be added to the R&S
exam, it won't be the focus of the exam. Once again, we're just
speculating.
thanks,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 1:09 PM
To: Gregory Gombas; Brad Ellis
Cc: Colin McNamara; Marc La Porte; Colby Reed; Cisco certification
Subject: RE: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008? [mx]
Most enterprises even at the larger levels will run MPLS as a transport
(which takes much fun away from L2 configs IMHO) but will not be running
MBGP and MPLS VPNs which is a huge part of the SP lab.
IF MPLS comes in, the focus will be entirely different and just as
transport
and/or VRF-Lite on your switches.
Just my two cents (and whatever ideas the proctors who read this list
get!)
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Gregory Gombas
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 3:42 PM
To: Brad Ellis
Cc: Colin McNamara; Marc La Porte; Colby Reed; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008?
Umm this may sound like a silly question, but if you added MPLS to the
R+S lab how much different would it be from the SP lab? You might as
well consolidate them into one lab....
On 9/6/07, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> Considering it's been added to the written and seems to be the "weapon
> of choice" in the industry, I would think MPLS on the R&S lab exam
> could definitely be a possibility.
>
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
> CEO / President
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Colin McNamara
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:13 PM
> To: Narbik Kocharians
> Cc: Marc La Porte; Colby Reed; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008?
> Importance: Low
>
> If you follow Cisco's definition of Enterprise vs Commercial, then
> MPLS is most definitely showing up in the enterprise. It is clearly
> defined in the NGN SRND's (next generation networks) and referenced in
> Cisco press literature.
>
> I have personally been seeing it used to address specific business
> needs in the enterprise space (fortune 1000) lately. I have not seen
> it much in the commercial space (@500 employees). In that space it is
> more likely to see techniques such as vrf-lite, or layer 2
> virtualization used to address these needs.
>
> --
> Colin McNamara
> (858)208-8105
> CCIE #18233
> "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little
> longer"
>
>
> On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 14:38 -0700, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> > Well that's why i am saying that even though i agree with Brian,
> > MPLS
> can be
> > considered to be Enterprise..
> >
> > On 9/6/07, Marc La Porte <marc.a.laporte@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Did you guys see this from Himawan's (triple CCIE) blog?
> > >
> > > http://brokenpipes.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_archive.html
> > > http://brokenpipes.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_archive.html
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/6/07, Colby Reed <mighty.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree with you guys too and don't want an email war either,
> > > > but
> IMHO,
> > > I
> > > > believe MPLS is moving towards the enterprise, so it may show up
> on the
> > > R&S
> > > > in the next couple of years.
> > > >
> > > > There is a video on Cisco.com <http://cisco.com/> that details
> > > > how
> Rice
> > > > University just rolled out the first MPLS campus network, and we
> are
> > > > following their lead by rolling it out next year.
> > > >
> > > > I know of several other institutions that are doing the same
> > > > with
> their
> > > > campus, so look for this to be a hot upcoming topic in the
> enterprise.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Colby
> > > >
> > > > On 9/6/07, Narbik Kocharians < narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I totally agree with Brian, but you could have your own MPLS
> cloud. I
> > > do
> > > > > not
> > > > > want to disagree with Brian and start an e-mail war, but the
> chances
> > > are
> > > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/6/07, Brian McGahan < bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I doubt that MPLS would be added to the R&S exam.
> > > > > > R&S
> has
> > > > > > traditionally been an Enterprise exam, and MPLS is not an
> Enterprise
> > > > > > technology. Besides from the customer's perspective they
> could have
> > > > > an
> > > > > > interface running Frame Relay and then in the provider cloud
> it
> > > could
> > > > > be
> > > > > > tunneled over MPLS. This is why MPLS is reserved for the SP
> track,
> > > as
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > transparent to the Enterprise customer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> > > > > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
> On
> > > Behalf
> > > > > Of
> > > > > > > Marc La Porte
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:52 AM
> > > > > > > To: Cisco certification
> > > > > > > Subject: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone heard if there's going to be any R&S lab blueprint
> changes
> > > > > per
> > > > > > > 01/01/2008?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm thinking of things like:
> > > > > > > - no more 3550s
> > > > > > > - mpls instead of frame relay
> > > > > > > - etc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Marc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>
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