RE: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008?

From: Brad Ellis (brad@ccbootcamp.com)
Date: Fri Sep 07 2007 - 02:08:35 ART


No, I haven't heard anything other than some conversations that were had
during networkers (but nothing that is/was confirmed). So for now, it's
all hearsay. From one angle, I'd expect some type of announcement of
changes within the next few months. From another perspective, there is a
certain RFP in the works that might cause the lab exam to stay
consistent for a while...we'll just have to see. Personally, I'd like
to see the following happen:

R&S - add a 6500 switch for a core switch. Pull the 3550s. Add MPLS for
the core and get ride of FR.

Voice - Go straight to UC 6.0. skip 5.x. Add MPE (meeting place express)

Security - Go with all ISR routers (remove the old 2600s). Yank the
VPN3005 and IPS4235. Stick an IPS module in the ASAs. Add clean access
and MARS.

Wireless needs to go somewhere...rumor mill had it for the R&S lab exam,
but with some internal changes at Cisco, I've heard it might be it's own
CCIE.

My $.02

thanks,

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From: Greg Wendel [mailto:gwendel@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 4:21 AM
To: Brad Ellis
Cc: Colin McNamara; Marc La Porte; Colby Reed; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008?

Brad,
Are you writing the above as an educated guess or as a veiled reference
to some inside information?

We know you have some good sources. Forgive me if this question is out
of bounds.

Thanks,

On 9/6/07, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:

Considering it's been added to the written and seems to be the "weapon
of choice" in the industry, I would think MPLS on the R&S lab exam could
definitely be a possibility.

thanks,
Brad Ellis
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com
<mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On Behalf Of
Colin McNamara
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:13 PM
To: Narbik Kocharians
Cc: Marc La Porte; Colby Reed; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008?
Importance: Low

If you follow Cisco's definition of Enterprise vs Commercial, then MPLS
is most definitely showing up in the enterprise. It is clearly defined
in the NGN SRND's (next generation networks) and referenced in Cisco
press literature.

I have personally been seeing it used to address specific business needs
in the enterprise space (fortune 1000) lately. I have not seen it much
in the commercial space (@500 employees). In that space it is more
likely to see techniques such as vrf-lite, or layer 2 virtualization
used to address these needs.

--
Colin McNamara
(858)208-8105
CCIE #18233
"The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little
longer"

On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 14:38 -0700, Narbik Kocharians wrote: > Well that's why i am saying that even though i agree with Brian, MPLS can be > considered to be Enterprise.. > > On 9/6/07, Marc La Porte <marc.a.laporte@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Did you guys see this from Himawan's (triple CCIE) blog? > > > > http://brokenpipes.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_archive.html > > http://brokenpipes.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_archive.html > > > > Marc > > > > > > On 9/6/07, Colby Reed <mighty.penguin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with you guys too and don't want an email war either, but IMHO, > > I > > > believe MPLS is moving towards the enterprise, so it may show up on the > > R&S > > > in the next couple of years. > > > > > > There is a video on Cisco.com <http://cisco.com/> that details how Rice > > > University just rolled out the first MPLS campus network, and we are > > > following their lead by rolling it out next year. > > > > > > I know of several other institutions that are doing the same with their > > > campus, so look for this to be a hot upcoming topic in the enterprise. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Colby > > > > > > On 9/6/07, Narbik Kocharians < narbikk@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I totally agree with Brian, but you could have your own MPLS cloud. I > > do > > > > not > > > > want to disagree with Brian and start an e-mail war, but the chances > > are > > > > there. > > > > > > > > On 9/6/07, Brian McGahan < bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I doubt that MPLS would be added to the R&S exam. R&S has > > > > > traditionally been an Enterprise exam, and MPLS is not an Enterprise > > > > > technology. Besides from the customer's perspective they could have > > > > an > > > > > interface running Frame Relay and then in the provider cloud it > > could > > > > be > > > > > tunneled over MPLS. This is why MPLS is reserved for the SP track, > > as > > > > > it's > > > > > transparent to the Enterprise customer. > > > > > > > > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security) > > > > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com > > > > > > > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc. > > > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com < > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/> > > > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705 > > > > > Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705 > > > > > 24/7 Support: http://forum.internetworkexpert.com > > > > > Live Chat: http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On > > Behalf > > > > Of > > > > > > Marc La Porte > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:52 AM > > > > > > To: Cisco certification > > > > > > Subject: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone heard if there's going to be any R&S lab blueprint changes > > > > per > > > > > > 01/01/2008? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking of things like: > > > > > > - no more 3550s > > > > > > - mpls instead of frame relay > > > > > > - etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >



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