Re: CCIE vs MCA

From: sheherezada@gmail.com
Date: Thu Sep 06 2007 - 05:21:47 ART


IBM has a similar internal certification (IBM Certified Architect). I
was enrolled in this program and it was similar to some extent: you
follow specific training, you do your homeworks and then face a board
review to defend a design (including lots of documentation and
intellectual capital reuse). It has an associate level (accredited
architect) and a higher level (certified architect). Anyway, the
point is that you are extensively coached to achieve this
certification and it means nothing more than you know how to use a
design methodology.

My feeling is that MCA is aimed primarily to Microsoft employees and
Microsoft partner's employees. You see - you must follow formal
training. They give you the insights. You probably know how to sell
yourself and this is very important, regardless how good your designs
are. This is different, and it has to do more with consultancy. And
I bet that a candidate that is not an English speaker or not an
affiliate of Microsoft will have hard times in getting the MCA. At
least the CCIE is more objective in this respect.

Just my two cents,

Mihai Dumitru
CCIE #16616 (SP, R&S)

On 9/5/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
> Sure you could call them apples and oranges, (or even cauliflowers and
> cantaloupes), but if you think failing the CCIE lab a few times is harsh.
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> Check out Microsoft's MCA requirements.
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> MCA : infrastructure
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> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/archprocess/default.mspx
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> MCA : messaging architect
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> Candidates for the program must meet rigorous prerequisites. This ensures
> that individuals who have been accepted already possess many of the unique
> skills that are necessary to be effective. Years of experience working with
> Exchange are required, in addition to passing a lab-based entrance exam.
> During the rigorous training (four weeks, six days a week, 12 hours a day),
> several other tests are administered.
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> If two of these tests are not passed, candidates are prohibited from taking
> the final qualification exam-they will not become Certified Messaging
> Architects.
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> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/messaging/default.mspx
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> I first thought this was an april fool's type joke. but it's real. Microsoft
> is making up for years of being a joke with their MCSE who can't set up a
> dhcp scope, etc.
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