From: Ian Blaney (ian.blaney@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Sep 01 2007 - 11:00:00 ART
Hey Josh
I don't fancy sitting next to you on a long plane journey!!!
Just like your hand. Always available. OOOeerrr Missus.
Ian
P.S (Sorry, couldn't resist that cheesy entry)
On 9/1/07, josh lauer <jslauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I Totally agree with you Darth or is it Darth Spanker? (Sorry, couldn't
> resist that cheesy entry)
>
> Dynamips is so convenient you can fit it on a laptop, so when your on a
> plane or wherever you can configure routers..it's always available! Just
> like your hand!
>
>
> Josh
> CCIE 16024
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "darth router" <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> To: "Scott Vermillion" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>
> Cc: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Dynagen folks...
>
> > You guys are going it all wrong. You have to fight analogy with analogy.
> >
> > (Even if you arent a virgin, sometimes you would just rather whack off)
> =
> > DYNAMIPS!
> >
> > I had a full CCIE lab, sold it, recouped money, and dynamips is much
> much
> > more efficient as far as building topologies and changing things.
> >
> > bwahahahhaha!
> >
> > On 9/1/07, Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'll take this a step further Joe (and maybe you have a good answer, I
> >> don't presuppose with any degree of certainty, but I can suspect):
> >>
> >> Other than some of the text that flies by during the boot sequence, if
> >> the Brians secretly redirected you to a rack where the routers were all
> >> Dynamips instances (excepting the ISR, which Dynagen does not emulate
> as
> >> of this time), how would you know they had done that, exactly? Would
> it
> >> be the "feel" perhaps? The "force" maybe?
> >>
> >> I'll tell you one way you might notice: I can boot a router instance
> on
> >> this Mac Mini in a matter of a few seconds! I get "press return to get
> >> started" in a very small fraction of the time I do when booting a
> >> hardware router. Other than that and the aforementioned text thing,
> I'm
> >> not sure how you'd ever even know sitting from afar?
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: RE: Dynagen folks...
> >> From: Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>
> >> Date: Fri, August 31, 2007 10:38 pm
> >> To: Cisco certification <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >>
> >> I am a true Dynamips/Dynagen believer and have built my lab prep
> >> "rack"
> >> around it/them. Please explain, Joe, how I will fail the CCIE lab
> >> because of it ("nothing else can prepare you for the real thing")?
> >> What
> >> is it about that "feel" that makes the difference (can you go "feel"
> >> the
> >> routers during the practical? Can you "feel" the routers in that
> >> remote
> >> rack?)?
> >>
> >> This has the potential to become the next "CCIE vs. college degree"
> >> topic, me thinks. It's probably not a very good use of bandwidth,
> >> come
> >> to think of it LOL, but I can't resist asking you to elaborate on
> >> these
> >> seemingly unfounded generalizations. I would prefer that you answer
> >> with
> >> "I have hardware routers and I also run Dynamips/Dynagen on a machine
> >> of
> >> sufficient horsepower, and here are the things I can do on the former
> >> that I can't do on the latter *that matter in the lab* (i.e. don't
> >> tell
> >> me about toggling the power switch...yawn...you can't do that in the
> >> lab
> >> anyway by all accounts I've ever heard).
> >>
> >> I'll start, going the opposite direction:
> >>
> >> I run Dynamips/Dynagen on a machine of sufficient horsepower, and I
> >> can
> >> directly capture traffic from a router interface into a .cap file and
> >> scrutinize every one and zero using open source WireShark. When I
> >> want
> >> to do that w/ physical routers, I have to use Ethernet (no serial)
> >> and
> >> set up a span port on a switch or put a hub in between the two
> >> routers,
> >> with a machine running WireShark hanging off of the hub (and I'm
> >> obviously in HDX at this point, which means the test environment is
> >> different than the non-test environment). Otherwise, I'm limited to
> >> only
> >> debug. I, of course, acknowledge that you're limited to only debug in
> >> the lab, but in your preparation for the lab, it's powerful to have
> >> such
> >> a tool at your disposal so that you can truly understand what's going
> >> on
> >> under the hood when you see certain debug output.
> >>
> >> BTW, I'm told Juniper has this capability to write .cap files on
> >> physical
> >> routers, but I cannot personall y verify. I have never heard of such
> >> a
> >> capability on Cisco routers, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
> >>
> >> There are more, of course, but I've already stated many of them in
> >> other
> >> recent threads and posts...
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: Dynagen folks...
> >> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> >> Date: Fri, August 31, 2007 9:53 pm
> >> To: "'Cisco certification'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >>
> >> Nothing feels as good as the real thing. And else nothing can prepare
> >> you
> >> for the real thing.
> >>
> >> (Remember if you only have had sex with a condom, your still a
> >> virgin, LOL)
> >>
> >> Check out the Brian's racks!
> >>
> >> http://www.affirmedsystems.com/photos/IERACKS.JPG
> >>
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> >>
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