From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Aug 31 2007 - 00:37:11 ART
Guys,
Why does alcohol always have to be the top guy? I think BGP after a bong hit
might be even more interesting!
On 8/31/07, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> hehehe no way. Late nights on labs and booze?
>
> My wife will kill me.
>
> G'night!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> To: "'Gary Duncanson'" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Preferred workbooks ???
>
>
> > When in doubt, a little alcohol makes the solutions much more
> interesting.
> > :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Duncanson [mailto:gary.duncanson@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:40 PM
> > To: smorris@ipexpert.com
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Preferred workbooks ???
> >
> > Hard work rocks.
> >
> > It's 1:31 am and I still can't get my BGP routes across to some router
> > that
> > should have them on my home lab *grumble*
> >
> > I can't imagine any shortcuts will really help my plight so have not
> > invested in any.
> >
> > No doubt by battering away I may resolve matters. All these books at
> home
> > will probably help :)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> > To: "'Narbik Kocharians'" <narbikk@gmail.com>; "'Hoogen'"
> > <hoogen82@gmail.com>
> > Cc: "'Gary Duncanson'" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; "'Usankin,
> > Andrew'"
> > <Andrew.Usankin@twtelecom.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:24 AM
> > Subject: RE: Preferred workbooks ???
> >
> >
> >> Heheheh... I don't think this is going to be a conversation where
> anyone
> >> comes out feeling good about things...
> >>
> >> IOS is in english? Ok, kinda sorta. But what percentage of the people
> >> working on the IOS code are "first language" english speakers? And who
> >> cares?
> >>
> >> I think this started out as an idea that some places cater to those who
> >> are
> >> interested in violating NDA. Regardless of the grasp of english
> >> language,
> >> some countries are more "hospitable" to those who want to run an
> Internet
> >> presence in the grey area of legality than others. Or more importantly
> >> some
> >> countries don't see things as a problem like others may.
> >>
> >> Perception is the problem. Anyway... Gender, religion, nationality
> and
> >> all
> >> that crap shouldn't really make a difference as far as we are
> concerned.
> >> Whatever site you go to, if something seems too easy, there's likely
> >> something wrong. Any reputable company doing CCIE work will not give
> you
> >> "shortcuts" to get to the end goal. Obviously there's marketing
> >> differences, and different styles in training. But nobody has
> shortcuts.
> >>
> >> Hard work was never easy. If you want the easy way, you aren't helping
> >> anyone (other than possibly putting money into the hands of people who
> >> aren't going to give it back anyway!)
> >>
> >> Just my two cents. Or two ruples, or yen, or whatever coinage du jour.
> >> ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE
> >> #153, CISSP, et al.
> >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> >> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> >> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >>
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> >>
> >> smorris@ipexpert.com
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Narbik Kocharians
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:33 PM
> >> To: Hoogen
> >> Cc: Gary Duncanson; Usankin, Andrew; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Re: Preferred workbooks ???
> >>
> >> Guys Cisco is a US base company and i dont know how that relates to
> >> Honda.
> >> Where do you think 170 Tasman drive is? Why do you think the IOS is in
> >> english.
> >>
> >> On 8/30/07, Hoogen <hoogen82@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think we can all stop this personal attacks. Anything personal, guys
> >>> don't mail it to the group study i guess alot of people might be
> >>> getting pissed with this thread.
> >>>
> >>> Cisco is a global company. If it wasn't we would have been having ***
> >>> only in Amsterdam then.
> >>>
> >>> -Hoogen
> >>>
> >>> P.S: Andrew I guess I have answered you privately.
> >>>
> >>> On 8/30/07, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Privet Andrew.
> >>> >
> >>> > Fair comment.
> >>> >
> >>> > Gary
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: "Usankin, Andrew" <Andrew.Usankin@twtelecom.com>
> >>> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >>> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:06 PM
> >>> > Subject: RE: Preferred workbooks ???
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > "...Their English is awfully pathetic and it wouldn't surprise me
> >>> > > if these guys are found to be from China or Korea."
> >>> > >
> >>> > > They obviously speak well Chinese or Korean :) Can you?
> >>> > > I got my CCNP and CCDP back in Russia and by that time I didn't
> >>> > > speak English at all, I knew only technical English. So what?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Andrew
> >>> > >
> >>> > > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> >>> > > Behalf
> >>> Of
> >>> > > Hoogen
> >>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:31 AM
> >>> > > To: Brad Ellis; Jonny English
> >>> > > Cc: cato hiroyasu; knight knight; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>> > > Subject: Re: Preferred workbooks ???
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Well I guess Jonny was just inquiring so that the guys number can
> >>> > > be sent to Cisco NDA. The site resides in Korea FYI.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Everyone's bothered now since the way CCIE numbers are flying
> >>> > > around that region China's explosion is unbelievable. I have met
> >>> > > some engineers from there who are good, but most of the CCIE's
> >>> > > don't even recognize a console port. Its becoming ridiculous and I
> >>> > > am really not sure what's Cisco's take on these sites as they have
> >>> > > been existing for
> >>> a
> >>> > > pretty long time violating the NDA.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Their English is awfully pathetic and it wouldn't surprise me if
> >>> > > these guys are found to be from China or Korea.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > -Hoogen
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 8/30/07, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Do NOT purchase that crap and support the NDA violators. In
> >>> > >> addition, what happens if Cisco goes after them and get's their
> >>> > >> customer list and you're one of the people on it??? I'd say you
> >>> > >> were willing violating NDA by purchasing this material. Now that
> >>> > >> would be interesting... just a thought.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> thanks,
> >>> > >> Brad Ellis
> >>> > >> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >>> > >> CCSI# 30482
> >>> > >> CEO / President
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> >>> > >> Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com
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> >>> > >> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
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> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> > >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> >>> > >> Behalf Of Jonny English
> >>> > >> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:44 AM
> >>> > >> To: cato hiroyasu
> >>> > >> Cc: knight knight; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>> > >> Subject: Re: Preferred workbooks ???
> >>> > >> Importance: Low
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> whats your ccie number?
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 8/30/07, cato hiroyasu <cato.hiroyasu@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Hi. Knight
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > I do not think so. i also know about CCIEcert's WB. Coz CCIEs
> >>> > >> > in my company also bought their WB & passed Actually once i saw
> >>> > >> > the website, i also had some doubt like U but all of things
> >>> > >> > were
> >>> cleared
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> > I also bought WB from there and passed
> >>> > >> they
> >>> > >> > are surely selling ccie real labs and it's really perfact I do
> >>> > >> > not recommand to you go to there if you do not know about CCIE
> >>> > >> basic
> >>> > >> > Technology
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > If you try to sell real stuffs. can you inform your phone No
> >>> > >> > Knight
> >>> > > ?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Cato
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > 2007/8/30, knight knight <knight_leb@yahoo.com>:
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > This site looks like a scam, or done really really poorly.
> >>> > >> > > Actually
> >>> > >> it
> >>> > >> > > looks like it was translated by an online tool, little fishy.
> >>> > >> > > They
> >>> > >> have
> >>> > >> > no
> >>> > >> > > phone contact, and they want you to pay 90.00 bucks for the
> >>> > > sample.
> >>> > >> Oh
> >>> > >> > > and if you share their labs, you "face big problem", very
> >>> > > humorous.
> >>> > >> And
> >>> > >> > only
> >>> > >> > > CCIE candidate can buy their labs, another funny comment on
> >>> > >> > > the
> >>> > >> site.
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > Nabil
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----
> >>> > >> > > From: Deepak Ahuja <deeps.ccie@gmail.com>
> >>> > >> > > To: joh willi <wjoh71@gmail.com>
> >>> > >> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>> > >> > > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:08:51 PM
> >>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Preferred workbooks ???
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > Hi
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > http://www.cciecert.net/ccie/index.html
> >>> > >> > > Heard about it from a lot of people, thinking of buying it so
> >>> > >> > > wanted suggestions
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > On 8/27/07, joh willi <wjoh71@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > > > hello deepak,
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > > > What is ccie cert?. I never heard about such a work book.
> >>> > >> > > > can
> >>> > >> you
> >>> > >> > > > provide the info about it?.
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > > > thanks,
> >>> > >> > > > joh
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > > > On 8/27/07, Deepak Ahuja <deeps.ccie@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> > > > > Hi Experts
> >>> > >> > > > >
> >>> > >> > > > > I have my Lab Attempt scheduled in November , I am
> >>> > >> > > > > almost done
> >>> > >> with
> >>> > >> > > > > IPEXPERT V9, I wanted to know which workbooks are
> >>> > >> > > > > considered
> >>> > >> > > best, as
> >>> > >> > > > > I
> >>> > >> > > > > have got different reviews from people around me
> >>> > >> > > > >
> >>> > >> > > > > 1. Internetwork Expert
> >>> > >> > > > > 2. IP Expert
> >>> > >> > > > > 3. CCIE Cert
> >>> > >> > > > >
> >>> > >> > > > > Any insight on that will be appreciated
> >>> > >> > > > >
> >>> > >> > > > > Regards
> >>> > >> > > > > DK
> >>> > >> > > > >
> >>> > >> > > > >
> >>> > >> > >
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