RE: OT: Loopbacks on Mac OS X

From: Scott Vermillion (scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com)
Date: Thu Aug 30 2007 - 23:50:51 ART


LOL Brian, that gives new meaning to the term "loopback interface."

I wish you luck with the NIO_Tap interface approach. I killed a Sunday
trying to make that work or to create Lo1. I was unsuccessful in both
endeavors but I'm really, really new to the Mac world (and Unix is quite
a ways in my past).

I did try you on the IRC but I was out buying more patch cords and a
cable labeler when this hit the list, so I was too late in trying to
catch you. I'll contact you offline with some thoughts/early lessons
learned with the 3560-8PC as the physical switch...

Regards,

Scott

  -------- Original Message --------
  Subject: RE: OT: Loopbacks on Mac OS X
  From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
  Date: Thu, August 30, 2007 3:22 pm
  To: "'Scott Vermillion'" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>

  Hi Scott, Two workarounds webve found for the termserv problem is
  1) get two more usb nics and plug a crossover cable between them 2)
  get one more usb nic and plug a looped back cat5 cable into it. Next
  Ibm going to try this with the bNIO_tapb interfaces:
  http://7200emu.hacki.at/viewtopic.php?t=3760
  http://7200emu.hacki.at/viewtopic.php?t=6&highlight=niotap Also feel
  free to join our #ccie IRC channel at irc.internetworkexpert.com or
  http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/ to discuss your progress on
  this with me. Thanks,

  Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)

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  From: Scott Vermillion [mailto:scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com]
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:35 PM
  To: Brian McGahan
  Subject: RE: OT: Loopbacks on Mac OS X< font face="Times New Roman"
  size="3"> Great, thanks Brian! BTW, other than this little
  annoyance, I am pretty much full up and running w/ Mac Mini and 4 x
  3560-8PCs. This is SO sweet! I may have to move a cable ever so
  often (that pesky SW2 is so danged busy!), but I feel as though I
  have a full CCIE R&S rack in my home, at my disposal 24 x 7. I
  really appreciate your advice on the Mini and the converter
  approach. It's working out really well...

  -------- Original Message --------
  Subject: RE: OT: Loopbacks on Mac OS X
  From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
  Date: Thu, August 30, 2007 10:35 am
  To: "'Scott Vermillion'" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>, "'Cisco
  certification'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>

  Scott,

  You can add an additional IP address to Loopback0, but this still
  won't solve your problem. From the TermServ instance you can talk to
  other
  devices on the LAN, but not the Mac box itself. It looks to be a
  problem in
  pcap, which Dynamips uses to interface with the NIC cards. Brian and
  I are
  working on some workarounds for this for building our new reference
  topology
  on the mac mini. I'll keep you posted on the progress.

  HTH,

  Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
  Of
  Scott Vermillion
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:18 PM
  To: Cisco certification
  Subject: RE: OT: Loopbacks on Mac OS X

  Hi Brian,

  I know that I am being really thick here. I should probably just
  figure
  this out once I get an actual lab going, it all might make a little
  more
  sense that way. What I am doing is emulating all routers - including
  the
  TermServ - on the Mac Mini. On a Windows box, you have TermServ E0/0
  mapped to the 169.254.0.1 loopback. I tried to do essentially the
  same
  thing on the Mac but the built-in lo0 is set to 127.0.0.1 and I don't
  think I want to change that. So I was just hoping to create an lo1
  instead and give it the 169 address. But perhaps this is all silly
  and I
  shouldn't even bother with this? I can telnet all of the routers sans
  TermServ, obviously. I was just trying to keep things as near to the
  original topology/configuration as possible. Since I went w/ 3560-8s,
  I
  already have some deviations. But this is too much effort for very
  little gain tha t I can see, now that I've thought it through...

  Regards,

  Scott

  -------- Original Message --------
  Subject: Re: OT: Loopbacks on Mac OS X
  From: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
  Date: Wed, August 29, 2007 9:44 pm
  To: "Scott Vermillion" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>, "Cisco
  certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>

  Scott,
  If you are going to access the Dynamips server remotely you should
  use
  the real interface to map the access server's Ethernet interface to.
  Also as a side note you may run into issues when trying to get a
  Dynamips router to talk to the local NIC that it's mapped to. There
  are some solutions (not pretty ;-) if you need to communication
  directly between a Dynamips router and your Mac but normally this
  isn't
  needed unless you are trying to access the terminal server from the
  same Mac.

  Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
  bdennis@internetworkexpert.com

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>----- Original Message -----
  Subject: OT: Loopbacks on Mac OS X
  Date: Wed, August 29, 2007 19:44
  From: "Scott Vermillion" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>

> Hi all,
>
> Well, I finally received my 3560-8PCs today! And my Mac Mini is
  pretty
> much up and running as I need it. However, I need to create a
  loopback
> address for connectivity to the TermServ router in the IEWB
  topology. OS
> X ships w/ an lo0, but it's set to 127.0.0.1 and I cannot put the
  router
> at 127.0.0.2 (IOS disallows this address). I have tried doing
  'ifconfig
> lo1 create blah blah blah' but I'm getting "invalid argument"
  errors.
> Anybody have any idea how to create a new loopback interface in OS
  X?
>
> Thanks much all,
>
> Scott
>
>
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