From: Scott Vermillion (scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com)
Date: Mon Aug 27 2007 - 15:59:24 ART
Hi Rik,
I think the confusing part is "license" vs. "license key." Also, it
looks as if David is saying that this is unique to "E" series switches
("E" being right after "3560" vs. being tacked onto the end...see:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7078/index.html). So this does not
apply to the 3560-8PC, because it isn't of that specific E series, even
though it can be upgraded with Enterprise code.
The good news out of David's post is that we will still be able to get
lab/eval licenses even if this becomes the new standard moving forward.
Thanks much all! Had a little scare there is all...
Scott
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: help with buying 3550/2560
From: "Guyler, Rik" <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>
Date: Mon, August 27, 2007 12:37 pm
To: 'Scott Vermillion' <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>,
ccielab@groupstudy.com
I think David must mean that it's coming down the road Scott. I just
downloaded images for my lab and there were still several options for
all
switch models. For the 8-port 3560 specifically you still can choose
between IP Base, IP Services and IP Advanced Services images. I
haven't
loaded one of these since a couple of months ago (3750) but it
appears that
the image selection is the same.
Rik
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
Scott Vermillion
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:58 PM
To: Cisco certification
Subject: RE: help with buying 3550/2560
OK gents, I just want to make sure I understand this fully. I am
ordering
four new 3560-8PC switches for my R&S lab prep. I do not plan to put
these
switches into a production environment. It's always been my
understanding
that Cisco allows anyone with a CCO login to download any feature set
for
any switch or router for the purposes of evaluation, etc. Only once a
feature set goes into production is a license purchase required,
according
to my understanding. Thus, I have already downloaded an Enterprise
image
for my switches and plan to flash that on the minute they arrive. Has
Cisco
somehow prevented me from enabling the enterprise features without a
per-platform license key? Or is that something that's under
consideration?
Given that the Enterprise CD is ~$1k, I would not be able to proceed
with my
plan of attack were that to be necessary x 4.
I think at that point I would shift over to the Dynamips ethernet
switch
module version of the IEWBs and then do a few rack rentals prior to
sitting
the lab...
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: help with buying 3550/2560
From: "David Prall" <dcp@dcptech.com>
Date: Mon, August 27, 2007 7:05 am
To: "'Alexander Belov'" <abelov@technoserv.ru>, "'Radioactive Frog'"
<pbhatkoti@gmail.com>, <tientien.wang@gmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Actually licensing is based on the feature set. This is supported
today on
the 3560-E and 3750-E. Their is only a single image for each
platform, but
the license key allows you to use the features you've licensed. So
instead
of downloading multiple images and loading the appropriate one, you
only
need one. So now IP Base, IP Services, and IP Advanced Services. It
will be
coming to additional platforms in the future, but most likely not
retroactively to deployed platforms.
So if you have a sw license for the platform, you can upgrade
versions all
you want. But, if you don't have the appropriate license then you
can't run
additional features. Of course the license belongs to the original
purchaser.
David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf Of Alexander Belov
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:58 AM
> To: 'Radioactive Frog'; tientien.wang@gmail.com
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: help with buying 3550/2560
>
> Hi guys!
>
> +1 fact for a new switch - Cisco plans to move their IOS on
> per-machine-ID
> (an activation key bound to the switch/router's serial number).
> With one ebay-baught HW You probably won't have sw updates in
> future, maybe
> a near future.
>
> Just my 2Cents
>
> Cheers, Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Radioactive Frog
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:45 PM
> To: tientien.wang@gmail.com
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: help with buying 3550/2560
>
> Instead of buying second hand,
>
> you may look into Cisco 3560 with 8 port POE switch. Does
> everything except
> the port density is less.
> The RRP here in Australia is only $ 2200 AUD. Second hand
> 3550 on ebay are
> available on 1100-1400 AUD.
> So better off with buying a brand new switch.
> Yes, of course you will get some discount on $2200 ......with
> discount its
> worthwhile buying new switch (what I think).
>
> HTH
>
> Frog
>
>
>
> On 8/27/07, tientien.wang@gmail.com <tientien.wang@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Please suggest a good place to purchase these switches.
> > used one is fine with me.
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Tien
> >
> >
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