From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Aug 21 2007 - 01:18:50 ART
That depends on the devs, and if they can continue to support future
platforms, whether it is possible or feasible. No switches yet, maybe never,
but who knows, chris has some posts where he wanted access to 6500 switches.
Might be workin on it :P I hope so. Here is the site with the history.
http://www.ipflow.utc.fr/index.php/Cisco_7200_Simulator
On 8/21/07, ISolveSystems <support@isolvesystems.com> wrote:
>
> You said that Dynamips is in its infancy. I am curious to know how old is
> Dynamips? How do you see the continuing development of Dynamips to
> support
> future IOS development?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On 8/20/07, Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
> >
> > Gregory,
> >
> > Were a person to acquire the CCIE cert w/ nothing more than time on
> > Dynamips, that person may indeed face a few embarrassing moments
> > early on. So it should be outlawed and shunned by the CCIE-seeking
> > community at large? I'd wager that 90% or better using Dynamips for
> > CCIE study have sufficient experience w/ real HW to know which side
> > the power switch is on.
> >
> > Do you think you'll normally have physical access to all of the
> > routers on which you are expected to perform your work? If you
> > require that to do your job, are you effective?
> >
> > Recall that this is real IOS -- not some training simulator. So the
> > chassis, the power supply, the interface cards, etc. are lacking in
> > your CCIE lab, where you are intensely focused on subtle protocol
> > interplay. So? Can you even touch the HW during the CCIE practical
> > exam?
> >
> > I have posted this as recently as a few hours ago on the professional
> > board:
> >
> > "I have now been dealing with Dynamips since (roughly) Dec of last
> > year. I generally trust it (yes, bugs now and then and even the
> > occasional crash, but can IOS itself claim otherwise?) and actually
> > prefer it over real hardware for a couple of reasons:
> >
> > 1. Recabling a HW lab takes longer than launching a new .net file. I
> > keep every .net file I've ever created, along with all of the router
> > NVRAM files, etc. Modifying one lab for another purpose gets easier
> > and easier as your collection grows. Take good notes on why you
> > created a given environment and your results. This becomes a highly
> > valuable reference resource when you've grown a little fuzzy on some
> > details of a prior battle.
> >
> > 2. The capture function of Dynagen is killer. Definitely beats debug
> > output when you're really trying to understand what's going on under
> > the hood. If you're proficient w/ Wireshark or any other PA that can
> > open a .cap file, this is a "killer app" for sur e."
> >
> > Dynamips is nothing short of revolutionary for understanding,
> > troubleshooting, prototyping, and generally poking and prodding
> > network-related protocols. It has some limitations, yet in its
> > infancy. Know those and live with them. And then leverage a tool
> > that can only be bested by some seriously deep pockets...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -------- Original MessageGr --------
> > Subject: Virtual CCIE's?
> > From: "Gregory Gombas" <ggombas@gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, August 20, 2007 6:19 pm
> > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I was checking out Dynamips and its pretty cool and all, but it
> > does
> > worry me a little bit....
> >
> > How will employers view the CCIE certification after they've been
> > burned by hiring a CCIE who has never touched a real router in
> > their
> > life?
> >
> > Do you like the idea of a pilot flying your plane whose only
> > training
> > was with a virtual flight simulator?
> >
> > I remember the days when the MCSE was a hot cert until an army of
> > paper CCIE's hit the job market.
> >
> > Maybe they won't call it a paper CCIE, maybe they'll coin a new
> > term
> > like virtual CCIE.
> >
> > Just food for thought...
> >
> >
> >
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