From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Aug 17 2007 - 23:14:33 ART
Joseph,
Thanks for your kind worlds, but the range that i mentioned was not for me,
this range is typical when you go through an agency, if you want to do it on
your own, then the hourly rate changes drastically.
I have been in this industry for the past 30 years and i have not worked for
a firm for the last 12 + years, not that its bad, but i just have not.
If you have your own consulting firm and you are not going through an
agency, you could charge a lot more depending on the contract.
But if some one just got their CCIE and they are consulting for an agency,
and they have about 4 - 5 years of exper. they would probably make around
100K.
Remember that the houses in LA are expensive, but not everyone lives in an
expensive house, you guys are blessed to pay 400 500K for a house and get
a 4 5 bedrooms, here in LA, with that money (Depending where you live) it
should be a good down payment for a 3 bed + 2 bath house or may be for a 2
bedroom condo.
But remember that its great to leave LA, but it will very hard to come back.
On 8/17/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Wow!!!
>
> Joseph, those are pretty strong words. Did it sound
> like the person was addressing you personally?
>
> I can think of plenty CCNP's who might like to take a
> position like that - it won't get one rich but man...
>
> That was a pretty decent sized flame.
>
>
> --- Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What do CCIEs with few years of exper. make?
> >
> > On 8/17/07, Scott Vermillion
> > <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > No wonder so many California big city types have
> > been showing up here in
> > > CO!! With a CCNP/CCDP it's possible to earn a W2
> > hourly wage within the
> > > range you're talking about below (definitely
> > towards the lower end of that
> > > range, but within that range nonetheless)...
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
> > > From: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Fri, August 17, 2007 3:51 pm
> > > To: "Larry Letterman (lletterm)"
> > <lletterm@cisco.com>
> > > Cc: "Craig Tompkins" <sidalo@gmail.com>, "Joseph
> > Brunner"
> > > <joe@affirmedsystems.com>, "Andrew Shin"
> > <mr.dude@gmail.com>,
> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >
> > > I live in LA and the hourly rate for a CCIE for a
> > long term contract is
> > > anywhere from 45 - 100 per hour. 100 per hour
> > requires lots of experiance.
> > >
> > > On 8/17/07, Larry Letterman (lletterm)
> >
> <lletterm**@cisco.com<
>
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> >>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Go check house prices in LA then..
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:
> >
> nobody**@groupstudy.com<
>
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> > >
> >
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> > > On Behalf Of
> > > > Narbik Kocharians
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:20 PM
> > > > To: Craig Tompkins
> > > > Cc: Joseph Brunner; Andrew Shin;
> >
> ccielab**@groupstudy.com<
>
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> >
> > > > Subject: Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles
> > area
> > > >
> > > > This is NOT a bad pay for a NP or even a CCIE
> > that just starting with
> > > > very little exp.
> > > >
> > > > On 8/17/07, Craig Tompkins
> >
> <sidalo**@gmail.com<
>
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> >>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe,
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this hostility leftover from your 8th
> > attempt?
> > > > >
> > > > > The base pay yes is 50 x 2080 = 104,000 yearly
> > assuming no overtime.
> > > > > Yes you are right that after providing their
> > own insurance, that the
> > > > > position paying that amount on a contracting
> > basis in the LA area is a
> > > >
> > > > > little low. You could have pointed this out,
> > hile being a little more
> > > >
> > > > > respectful and professional.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Craig Tompkins
> > > > > CCIE #16921
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/17/07, Joseph Brunner
> >
> <joe**@affirmedsystems.com<
>
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> >>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry, but $50 an hour is hardly $100k per
> > year... and from that you
> > > > > want
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > to buy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -business liability insurance
> > > > > > -business errors & omissions insurance
> > (usually required to get the
> > > > > first)
> > > > > > -the employers 7.2% share of social security
> > (on the first $97,000)
> > > > > > -my own health insurance -contribute to my
> > own 401k.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't say this lightly, but go $#ck
> > yourself. Do you think anyone
> > > > > > any good is going to do that job for about
> > $60k a year?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:
> >
> nobody**@groupstudy.com<
>
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> > >
> >
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> >]
> > > On Behalf
> > > >
> > > > > > Of Andrew Shin
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 2:36 PM
> > > > > > To:
> >
> ccielab**@groupstudy.com<
>
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> >
> > > > > > Subject: Contract Position in Los Angeles
> > area
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all, I'm forwarding this for a friend.
> > I'll also post this on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > job
> > > > > > board, but I'm not sure how many people
> > check that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1+ year local contract (hourly consultancy
> > 50/hr range) in the Los
> > > > > Angeles
> > > > > > area (South Bay)
> > > > > > It's with a well established and well known
> > global company and has
> > > > > > the likelihood of extending for a long time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Network Engineer
> > > > > > Mid to Senior level NW Engineer who has
> > large corporate NW
> > > > > > engineering experience.
> > > > > > WAN/LAN, VOIP.
> > > > > > 7-10 years of NW Engineering experience
> > Experience working within an
> > > >
> > > > > > environment that is comprised of Unix,
> > Windows, and Mainframe (need
> > > > > > to have worked with all three environments)
> > Experience providing
> > > > > > proof of concept and presenting design and
> > recommendations to team
> > > > > > members and management.
> > > > > > Provide 3rd level support.
> > > > > > Experience with Cisco 2600-7200 routers and
> > Cisco 350 switches. E
> > > > > > Experience with Firewall, PIX, VPN 3000
> > Concentrator, ATM, and video
> > > >
> > > > > > conferencing.
> > > > > > Professional with good communication
> > abilities
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please contact
> >
> matthew.chontos**@ispace.com<
>
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> > > > Narbik Kocharians
> > > > CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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