Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area

From: Craig Tompkins (sidalo@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Aug 17 2007 - 17:35:26 ART

My apologies for mixing you up with someone else.

The point is that yes you are right with the wages and your argument. I do
not debate that. It was posted on this board instead fo the jobs board,
which is another issue.

Why not just explain the issues and the examples you gave without listing
your last 2 sentences? Were you so deeply personally disrespected you
needed to throw them in there? It is possible and probable from the OP that
there is some lack of knowledge on the subject from the job poster. I do
not think the job post was directed to insult your intelligence and your
networking abilities personally, rather that they do not have the
appropriate knowledge of what is realistic.

Simply pointing them in the right direction would have been greatly
appreciated I am assuming. 

--
Craig Tompkins
CCIE #16921

On 8/17/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>
>  Different Joe I'm Joe B.
>
> People need to stop acting like Fagan and pay more of the money out they
> are billing the consultants out at.
>
> $50 an hour is what most would expect for W2. W2 includes health insurance
> and the employer pays = of the social security taxes. Now if anyone cares
to
> do that job at that rate, and pay for all the things I mentioned, god bless
> them, it's none of my business. But as a professional consultant I can say,
> you do get what you pay for, and If I was the client I would not be very
> happy when you bring in a CCNA and bill me $100+ per hour.
>
> P.S. the original poster should consider being less greedy and or setting
> the expectations better with the client. You came on to an "expert" level
> board looking for someone who makes Junior level wages. This is not a job
> posting board. So don't send us that spam!
>
> Respect given where respect granted.
>
> -Joe "Herr" Br|nner
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Craig Tompkins [mailto:sidalo@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2007 3:47 PM
> *To:* Joseph Brunner
> *Cc:* Andrew Shin; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> *Subject:* Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
>
>
>
> Joe,
>
>
>
> Is this hostility leftover from your 8th attempt?
>
>
>
> The base pay yes is 50 x 2080 = 104,000 yearly assuming no overtime.
>
> Yes you are right that after providing their own insurance, that the
> position paying that amount on a contracting basis in the LA area is a
> little low.  You could have pointed this out, hile being a little more
> respectful and professional.
>
>
> --
> Craig Tompkins
> CCIE #16921
>
>
> On 8/17/07, *Joseph Brunner* <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry, but $50 an hour is hardly $100k per year... and from that you want
> me
> to buy
>
> -business liability insurance
> -business errors & omissions insurance (usually required to get the first)
> -the employers 7.2% share of social security (on the first $97,000)
> -my own health insurance
> -contribute to my own 401k.
>
> I don't say this lightly, but go $#ck yourself. Do you think anyone any
> good
> is going to do that job for about $60k a year?
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com ] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Shin
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 2:36 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
>
> Hi all, I'm forwarding this for a friend.  I'll also post this on the job
> board, but I'm not sure how many people check that.
>
> Thanks!
>
> 1+ year local contract (hourly consultancy 50/hr range) in the Los Angeles
> area (South Bay)
> It's with a well established and well known global company and has the
> likelihood of extending for a long time.
>
> Network Engineer
> Mid to Senior level NW Engineer who has large corporate NW engineering
> experience.
> WAN/LAN, VOIP.
> 7-10 years of NW Engineering experience
> Experience working within an environment that is comprised of Unix,
> Windows,
> and Mainframe (need to have worked with all three environments)
> Experience providing proof of concept and presenting design and
> recommendations to team members and management.
> Provide 3rd level support.
> Experience with Cisco 2600-7200 routers and Cisco 350 switches. E
> Experience with Firewall, PIX, VPN 3000 Concentrator, ATM, and video
> conferencing.
> Professional with good communication abilities
>
> Please contact matthew.chontos@ispace.com
>
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