From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Sun Aug 12 2007 - 17:17:19 ART
Correct!
Most enterprises are NOT good enterprises. I would love to work for one, one
day that values quality work, rather than "sweep it under the rug". Here's
an example;
I worked as a consultant for 4 months for a rather notable hedge fund that
has been in the news a lot lately. They had 6 6509's, with 2 of them being a
core. The original network designer choose to use vlan 10,14,16,17,18,19 on
all the 6509's, yet made the core to core link a 2 x 10gbps port-channel
LAYER 3 ROUTED LINK ONLY.
The layer 2 topology was forced to converge through the access layer 6509's
(no distribution layer, the other 4 were floor access/server switches). When
their several dozen Netapp sans started replication, all user data was very
slow. We found (quickly I might add) that making the 10Gbps port channel
between the core's a layer 2 link would allow a much faster path able to
keep up with the netapps. This problem had persisted for about 1 year until
I fixed it.
Now would a quadruple CCIE have designed this beast? Let's hope not!
LOL
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Dumoulin [mailto:Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr]
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:09 PM
To: Joseph Brunner; Narbik Kocharians; Ramya S
Cc: Scott Morris; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE : ccie-cert
You are demonstrating that you don't know how good enterprises work (it is
all about money, there is no place for pride) plus there are many non CCIEs
that kick our ass!
-- Richard
CCIE #13891
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Joseph Brunner [mailto:joe@affirmedsystems.com]
Envoyi : Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:07 PM
@ : Richard Dumoulin; 'Narbik Kocharians'; 'Ramya S'
Cc : 'Scott Morris'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Objet : RE: ccie-cert
Penny wise, pound foolish... the IE and his team will be back to fix the
problems later, when the company is desperate to fix issues. They can charge
$1000 per hour. The vp that hired the triple-P level engineer will be out of
a job too. The quad IE will be offered that position in the company, which
he will decline, as he would rather keep socking it to cheap penny wise
organizations. Rinse, wash, repeat.
LOL
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Dumoulin
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:54 PM
To: Narbik Kocharians; Ramya S
Cc: Scott Morris; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE : ccie-cert
Many companies would pick the first one because she is cheaper
-- Richard
-----Message d'origine-----
De : nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
Envoyi : Sunday, August 12, 2007 9:28 PM
@ : Ramya S
Cc : Scott Morris; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Objet : Re: ccie-cert
Sure, just imagine, someone says that he/she has a CCIE in R&S plus CCSP and
CCIP and CCVP, versus a person with quad CCIE.
Which one would you pick, if everything else is equal?
On 8/12/07, Ramya S <ramya_1975@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Scott,
>
> Can one CCIE certificate and other professional level certificates of
> different tracks be helpful if one is in marketing/sales or even
> management.
>
> Thanks,
> Ramya
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: smorris@ipexpert.com> To: ramya_1975@hotmail.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: ccie-cert> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007
> 13:11:47 -0400> > One is enough to certify your expertise. Additional ones
> are
> good if you do> consulting jobs in more than one technical area (e.g.
> marketing) or if you> work for a partner (specialization points for them
> means
> more value). Or if> you just get bored easily. :)> > Scott > >
> -----Original
> Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
> On
> Behalf Of> Ramya S> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:03 PM> To:
> ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: ccie-cert> > Hi group,> > Are there any
> benefits in holding multiple CCIE certifications or just one> is enough to
> certify you as an expert.> > Regards,> Ramya>
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