From: spduo (frenzeus@streamyx.com)
Date: Sat Jul 21 2007 - 04:50:04 ART
Hi Scott,
Thanks for the clarification.. very much appreciated!
Cheers
-K
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: "'spduo'" <frenzeus@streamyx.com>; "'Koen Zeilstra'"
<koen@koenzeilstra.com>; "'Marvin Greenlee'" <marvin@ipexpert.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: RFC3330 never-ending list..
> Many of those entries have been returned to the RIR's for assignment.
> That's why I'd stick to the list as I broke down before. Those are the
> RFC-reserved, or non-changing ones! (At least until a new RFC makes 'em
> change!)
>
> For other stuff, the routes were known as 'bogons' and that's really a
> floating definition of unassigned space that varies very quickly. From
> that
> standpoint, I don't think there's any need to worry about being tested on
> the more absurd ones. Just my two cents!
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> spduo
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:18 PM
> To: Scott Morris; 'Koen Zeilstra'; 'Marvin Greenlee'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RFC3330 never-ending list..
>
> Hi all,
>
> i was doing some little research, read up the RFC, and thanks to Scott for
> doing a good breakdown of the list..
>
> Now, what about 14.0.0.0/8 & 39.0.0.0/8? Has these been returned to the
> registries for assignment or are they still reserved?
>
> I know for sure that the 24.0.0.0/8 is already being assigned outhere in
> the
> Internet..
> any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance guys.
>
> Cheers.
> -K
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
> To: "'Koen Zeilstra'" <koen@koenzeilstra.com>; "'Marvin Greenlee'"
> <marvin@ipexpert.com>
> Cc: <sheherezada@gmail.com>; "'Suzan S.'" <suzan_ccie@yahoo.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:18 PM
> Subject: RE: LAB exam SP
>
>
>> There's a number of networks from that list that have been deprecated
>> from filtering (e.g. they've been assigned!)...
>>
>> But You should already know the RFC 1918 ones (included), then others
>> should be obvious:
>>
>> 127/8 Loopbacks
>> 169.254/16 Microsoft
>> 224/4 Multicast
>> 240/4 Research
>>
>> Then there's the first and last class of each class grouping:
>>
>> 0/8 and 127/8 (above)
>> 128/16 and 191.255/16
>> 192.0.0/24 and 223.255.255/24
>>
>> Then there are some odd ones for testing purposes:
>>
>> 192.0.2/24
>> 198.18/15
>>
>> All the rest have been otherwise allocated.
>>
>> So if you just understand the breakdowns there, honestly, about the
>> only thing to really memorize (something new anyway) are those two
>> testing networks.
>>
>> Just my thoughts. Yes, it's irritating, but not that bad!
>>
>>
>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>> JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
>> IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
>> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>> smorris@ipexpert.com
>> http://www.ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Koen Zeilstra
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:55 AM
>> To: Marvin Greenlee
>> Cc: sheherezada@gmail.com; 'Suzan S.'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: LAB exam SP
>>
>> If we are talking RFC 3330, that is a whole bunch of numbers to memorize!
>>
>> 0.0.0.0/8
>> 10.0.0.0/8
>> 14.0.0.0/8
>> 24.0.0.0/8
>> 39.0.0.0/8
>> 127.0.0.0/8
>> 128.0.0.0/16
>> 169.254.0.0/16
>> 172.16.0.0/12
>> 191.255.0.0/16
>> 192.0.0.0/24
>> 192.0.2.0/24
>> 192.88.99.0/24
>> 192.168.0.0/16
>> 198.18.0.0/15
>> 223.255.255.0/24
>> 224.0.0.0/4
>> 240.0.0.0/4
>>
>> Are you sure there's is no information to be found on the doc CD about
>> this?
>> In my opionion a SP CCIE should know every tiny biy of all the
>> techniques and protocols on the blue print but NOT memorize lists like
> this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Koen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Marvin Greenlee wrote:
>>
>> | In general, it's usually not that they specifically remove command
>> | options, or syntax information, but individual IOS versions may vary
>> | as far as what they will support.
>> |
>> | RFCs have always been fair game when they have been relevant to the
>> track.
>> | RFC 1918 and 3330, for example, used to be explicitly listed on the
>> | SP blueprint. Most people are familiar with 1918, but 3330 is not
>> | as well known. It's definitely one that would be relevant to the
>> track.
>> | RFC 2827, for example, is explicitly listed on the security lab
>> | blueprint, but could also apply to service provider environments.
>> |
>> | There are often multiple ways that a task can be achieved.
>> | Successfully navigating through a CCIE lab usually requires knowing
>> | multiple methods to complete a specific task.
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> | Marvin Greenlee, CCIE #12237 (R&S, SP, Sec) Senior Technical
>> | Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> | "When Will You Be an IP Expert?"
>> | marvin@ipexpert.com
>> | http://www.IPexpert.com
>> |
>> | -----Original Message-----
>> | From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> | Of sheherezada@gmail.com
>> | Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:56 AM
>> | To: Suzan S.
>> | Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> | Subject: Re: LAB exam SP
>> |
>> | Some routers may have help disabled for some command subsets or even
>> | some configuration options may be disabled (sorry, can not disclsose
>> | examples). One idea is to check the syntax on another router from
>> | the lab.
>> |
>> | And yes, I had one question that specifically referred to a RFC I
>> | did not know. There was no mention about this RFC in the doc CD
>> | (double checked after I exited the lab), so this was not fair.
>> |
>> | Another dirty trick is that they may ask things with very shady
>> | completion criteria (think of optimization or something), so
>> | actually you have no clue except your best practice knowledge. For
>> | one of these questions I confirmed my understanding with the proctor
>> | twice, got two different answers, and finally ended up with no points.
>> |
>> | Cheers,
>> |
>> | Mihai
>> | CCIE #16616
>> |
>> | On 3/1/07, Suzan S. <suzan_ccie@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> | > Dears,
>> | >
>> | > Anyone knows about the lab exam, can we use the help for each
>> | > command and use ? to see the following command used.
>> | >
>> | > Do we have to know each Rfc
>> | > number and content to configure the senarios in the lab if the
>> | > service requested only through the Rfc number.
>> | >
>> | > Thank you
>> | >
>> | > Regards
>> | > Suzan
>> | >
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