From: Digital Yemeni (digital.yemeni@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Jul 18 2007 - 21:49:58 ART
How many people out there can remember the 802.x standards? and how many can
remember what the deep details at the frame/packet/bit level?! Remember you
are expected to answer, because you're a CCIE right! ;-)
I got several interviews some of which they ask VERY excellent technical
questions which refreshes the rusty memory. Others confirm, "you're a CCIE
right?" can you tell me what the private IP address ranges?! that one makes
you really say "damn!" :)
-- Best RegardsDigital, CCIEx1 (4 more to go! a 10 years project! SP in progress...)
On 7/19/07, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote: > > Excellent point > > On 7/18/07, Eric Dobyns <eric_dobyns@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > And don't forget there are Voice CCIEs, Security CCIEs, SP CCIEs, > > etc. None > > of them are likely to know how to run a point-to-point OSPF connection > > across a multipoint link without having to research it. They didn't > have > > to > > learn it for their test and how many times in life do you have to do > that > > in > > the real world? Just because they are a "CCIE" doesn't mean they know > > everything Cisco off the top of their head. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > > Scott Morris > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:33 AM > > To: 'Edison Ortiz'; 'Colin McNamara'; ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ? > > > > That, and there are always things that a person may not know/remember > > whether they are CCIE or not! I mean, Appletalk was on my lab, but > don't > > expect me to remember all that much about it off the top of my head > these > > days! :) > > > > Scott > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > > Edison Ortiz > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:52 AM > > To: 'Colin McNamara'; ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ? > > > > You will find 'paper <insert professional certification>' in all aspects > > of > > life. > > A CCIE cert will most likely get you the interview, but you have to show > > what you know on a daily basis. The challenge does not end once you pass > > the > > Lab. > > > > > > After the Lab, you are challenged everyday *and* that's good because if > > you > > aren't challenged - you will forget within months time. > > > > > > Edison Ortiz > > Routing and Switching, CCIE # 17943 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > > Colin McNamara > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:24 AM > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ? > > > > Well, none of the people I work with are lazy. But I have seen paper > > CCIE's > > out there. I couple years ago I caught one in an interview. He couldn't > > demonstrate basic understanding of network protocols. > > > > Weird thing is, his # checked out as valid. I guess he is proof of those > > rumors that you can buy labs in the far east. It is pretty sad actually. > > > > -- > > Colin McNamara > > (858)208-8105 > > CCIE #18233 > > "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little > > longer" > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 07:44 -0700, Narbik Kocharians wrote: > > > > > > > > > Don't get me wrong i totally agree with you, but its just that i find > > > it hard to believe that there are paper CCIEs. May be there are, who > > > knows? > > > > > > But remember that some people have the wrong attitude and/or are very > > > lazy and some are very conservative, some people don't know what the > > > behavior of a certain configuration is going to be and how it would > > > affect things. > > > > > > He could be having a bad day, but his ability or inability should not > > > be a reflection of others. > > > > > > I know this other gentleman that has two CCIEs but this person is > > > extremely lazy and likes to be given a task and the configuration > > > commands so he can just enter the commands. The question is "Does he > > > know his stuff?" YES but he has a bad attitude and extremely lazy. > > > just my 2 cents. > > > > > > > > > On 7/18/07, Mohamed, Liban [NTK] <Liban.Mohamed@sprint.com> wrote: > > > Nabrik, > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember if he had SP or RS, but one could hope, once > > > you get CCIE, you should @least have the ability to look > > > through a feature via CCO, and read about it. So let's assume > > > you pass your RS, and you take consulting gig that require > > > MPLS, should one say (oohh I have RS, I can't configure MPLS) > > > or you take the task and read the technology and implement, > > > It's like when someone finishes School, all that means is you > > > can know read and do your own research J > > > > > > > > > > > > Liban Mohamed > > > > > > NTAC-IP > > > > > > Sprint/Nextel > > > > > > www.sprint.net > > > > > > liban.mohamed@sprint.com > > > > > > (W) 678-291-3438 > > > > > > (PCS) 404-441-9701 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Narbik Kocharians [mailto:narbikk@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:44 AM > > > To: Mohamed, Liban [NTK] > > > Cc: Colin McNamara; ccielab@groupstudy.com > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ? > > > > > > > > > Was this guy that couldnt configure Soo for EIgrp an SP CCIE? > > > > > > On 7/17/07, Mohamed, Liban [NTK] <Liban.Mohamed@sprint.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Man don't remind me paper CCIE, when I see them it really > > > discourage me to get my #. When CCIE can't configure soO for > > > EIGRP, then you have to worry. But I really think multiple > > > CCIE can help you consulting position, which will attract the > > > client, Maybe I will change my thinking once I get my 1st > > > IE# :) > > > > > > > > > Liban Mohamed > > > NTAC-IP > > > Sprint/Nextel > > > www.sprint.net > > > liban.mohamed@sprint.com > > > (W) 678-291-3438 > > > (PCS) 404-441-9701 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On > > > Behalf Of Colin McNamara > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:18 PM > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com > > > Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ? > > > > > > Well, let me just say that I am the only CCIE on my team with > > > a Single > > > CCIE. All the other CCIE's have 2 - 5. If I wasn't an > > > internal referral > > > I would not have even been on the radar for a job here. > > > > > > I think back to 2000 or so, where if you had you # you could > > > get a job > > > practically anywhere. Now there are alot more CCIE's in the > > > world, along > > > with a few labrats / paper CCIE's (trust me.. I have seen > > > them). Now the > > > ticket anywhere has been bumped up a notch to multiple > > > CCIE's. > > > > > > -- > > > Colin McNamara > > > (858)208-8105 > > > CCIE #18233 > > > "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a > > > little > > > longer" > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 21:45 -0400, E.A. McCaleb wrote: > > > > Even if you have multple certs (CCIE's) Im pretty sure it > > > doesn't help in > > > > regards to partnership. In other words, if you need four > > > CCIE's for gold > > > > partnership one quad IE will not do. It has to be four > > > individuals with a > > > > CCIE certification. > > > > > > > > EM > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/17/07, Colin McNamara <colin@2cups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Having multiple certs is also huge if you are in the > > > Partner world. > > > > > It enhances your standing in the channel, and allows you > > > as an SE to > > > > > look better on paper to the customer. > > > > > > > > > > --Colin > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 18:58 -0500, Mohamed, Liban [NTK] > > > wrote: > > > > > > trible CCIE works well if you teaching, bu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Narbik Kocharians > > > CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) > > > CCSI# 30832 > > > www.Net-WorkBooks.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Narbik Kocharians > > > CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) > > > CCSI# 30832 > > > www.Net-WorkBooks.com > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > -- > Narbik Kocharians > CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) > CCSI# 30832 > www.Net-WorkBooks.com > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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