Re: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ?

From: Colin McNamara (colin@2cups.com)
Date: Tue Jul 17 2007 - 20:24:50 ART


Well right now on Cisco's site it says that only 161 people have 3 or
more certs.

On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 16:16 -0700, Ali Ebrahimi wrote:
> Hi guys,
> If there will be a certification that requires ccie in 3 fields before
> even taking the exam, how many people would be certified? how much
> would be the salary for those people?
>
> by the way, i had this question from long time, how much would the
> second ccie add to a person in terms of salary. suppose we say average
> salary for a ccie is 100,000 $. what kind of impact would the second
> and third ccies have on the salary?
>
> regards,
> Ali Afrouzi
>
> Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you look at the link that Edison mentioned, the top portion
> of the
> pyramid is missing some letters.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/le2/le37/le5/learning_certification_ty
> pe_home.html
>
>
> On 7/17/07, Colin McNamara wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, in the email they said they were announcing it. So..
> my guess that
> > the site will be updated after they make the official
> announcement.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 12:29 -0400, Edison Ortiz wrote:
> > > >From what I gather, this is the expert certification for
> the CCDP
> > track.
> > > If you go to
> > >
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/le2/le37/le5/learning_certification_ty
> > > pe_home.html
> > > You will find the expert track is missing from the pyramid
> on CCDP.
> > >
> > > The expert track is there if you click on CCIP, CCNP,
> CCSP, and CCVP.
> > >
> > > I don't see the new certification as better than a CCIE
> but equal. It
> > all
> > > depends on the industry recognition
> > > on the new cert.
> > >
> > >
> > > Edison Ortiz
> > > Routing and Switching, CCIE # 17943
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
> On Behalf Of
> > > Colin McNamara
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:53 AM
> > > To: Greg Wendel
> > > Cc: Dave Beattie; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ?
> > >
> > > I wish, from what I hear it will require you to have 3
> CCIE's for an
> > > opportunity to sit on the Design board. I doubt they will
> accept the 1/3
> > of
> > > the way there argument from me. Though, I wouldn't doubt
> if a couple of
> > guys
> > > from work went for it.
> > >
> > > --Colin
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 11:42 -0400, Greg Wendel wrote:
> > > > Thanks Colin,
> > > > When are you going to take the test? Will you be the
> first CCDE?
> > > >
> > > > On 7/17/07, Colin McNamara wrote:
> > > > If anyone is going to Networkers this year, there was a
> small
> > > > note in an
> > > > email regarding the schedule last week. It mentions that
> they
> > > > will be
> > > > announcing the CCDE (Cisco Certified Design Expert).
> That is
> > > > the super
> > > > CCIE that everyone is talking about.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Colin McNamara
> > > > (858)208-8105
> > > > CCIE #18233
> > > > "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just
> takes a
> > > > little longer"
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 08:37 +0100, Dave Beattie wrote:
> > > > > Might this be the Expert level CCDP certifiaction?
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of Petr Lapukhov
> > > > > Sent: Tue 6/19/2007 8:05 AM
> > > > > To: Scott Morris
> > > > > Cc: colin@2cups.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess they copy "Microsoft Ceritifed Architect" idea
> here.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/default.mspx
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on this, it's probably going to be a totally new
> > > > stuff.
> > > > > Anyone looking for a greater challenge? :))
> > > > >
> > > > > 2007/6/19, Scott Morris :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The name just isn't getting me. An Architect can
> mean
> > > > anything from a
> > > > > > glorified designer to more advanced stuff. Cisco
> hasn't
> > > > really embraced
> > > > > > this moniker before, so it'll be hard to fit it in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The "master" certs they were talking about could
> bring
> > > > that more into
> > > > > > play,
> > > > > > but who knows. I was amazed they appear to be
> exploring
> > > > the re-release of
> > > > > > the Design CCIE. I think there were all of four
> people
> > > > who actually got
> > > > > > that the first go-around!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whaddya do? Watch for the announcements!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> > > > Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> > > > > > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > > > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > > > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > > > > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning
> Credits!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > > > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > > > > http://www.ipexpert.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of
> > > > > > colin@2cups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:25 PM
> > > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Internetwork
> Architect ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From the rumors I have heard running around is that
> you
> > > > will have to have
> > > > > > 3
> > > > > > CCIE's to attempt and there will be a board
> interview.
> > > > > > From what I have heard.. that sounds pretty advanced
> to
> > > > me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Colin McNamara
> > > > > > CCIE #18233
> > > > > > (858)927-4515
> > > > > > "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible
> just
> > > > takes a little
> > > > > > longer"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Internetwork
> Architect ?
> > > > > > > From: "Edison Ortiz"
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, June 18, 2007 2:12 pm
> > > > > > > To: "Ronnie Angello" , "Keith
> > > > Foster"
> > > > > > > , "Greg Wendel"
> > > > , "Cisco
> > > > > > > certification"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think the CCIA will be less advanced.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 6/18/07, Ronnie Angello
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > So do you guys think that they are going to bill
> the
> > > > new cert(s) as
> > > > > > > more or
> > > > > > > > less advanced than CCIE?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 6/18/07, Keith Foster <
> keith.foster@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, I filled out that survey this
> > > > morning...interesting.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 6/18/07, Greg Wendel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > These are some questions from a recent Cisco
> > > > survey:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How would you describe the job role and
> skills a
> > > > person
> > > > > > > certified as a
> > > > > > > > > > Cisco
> > > > > > > > > > Certified Internetwork Architect should
> have?
> > > > Please write your
> > > > > > > answer
> > > > > > > > > > below.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How would you describe the job role and
> skills a
> > > > person
> > > > > > > certified as a
> > > > > > > > > > Cisco
> > > > > > > > > > Certified Master Internetwork Architect
> should
> > > > have? Please
> > > > > > > write your
> > > > > > > > > > answer below.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How would you describe the job role and
> skills a
> > > > person
> > > > > > > certified as a
> > > > > > > > > > Cisco
> > > > > > > > > > Certified Network Infrastructure Architect
> should
> > > > have? Please
> > > > > > > write
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > answer below.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How would you describe the job role and
> skills a
> > > > person
> > > > > > > certified as a
> > > > > > > > > > Cisco
> > > > > > > > > > Certified Master Network Architect should
> have?
> > > > Please write
> > > > > > > your answer
> > > > > > > > > > below.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Gregory Wendel
> > > > > > > > > > Springfield VA, 22153
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > >
> >
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> > > > > petr@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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