From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Tue Jul 10 2007 - 11:34:32 ART
:)
I never played with ARCnet. But I do remember questions on it on the old
'Networking Essentials' test.
You didn't get an MCP for that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kraus (mikraus)" <mikraus@cisco.com>
To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; "Scott Morris"
<smorris@ipexpert.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
I know of a beverage manufacturer whom still uses ARCnet for their fire
alarm system. Long live ARCnet!
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Gary Duncanson
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:18 AM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
Then there is the 'old CCIE R/S' stuff still lurking..ISDN..ATM..maybe
old bridging protcols SRB, DLSW+ and DECNet. Even a 3.12 Novell server
hiding someplace running IPX/SPX.
It's off the workbooks but may be chugging away in a datacentre/computer
room near you someplace. It happens.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: "'Muhammad Nasim'" <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com>; "'Salau, Yemi'"
<yemi.salau@siemens.com>
Cc: "'Tony Schaffran'" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>; "'Anekwe, Abdul'"
<Abdul.Anekwe@sig.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
> Would it amaze you to see and R&S CCIE that cannot put security
> configurations on an ASA?
>
> Everyone has their niches of experience.
>
> I think that vlans on a switch may be stretching it a little, because
they
> SHOULD know how to do that from their lab exam! But I'm sure there
are
> many
> things that aren't known how to do. Each CCIE has it's limits, and
it's
> up
> to the individual beyond that.
>
> IMHO the more important thing was whether this CCIE was able to look
> things
> up and fix the problem or simply walked away. THAT is the bigger
issue.
> But
> nobody knows everything, and I hear things all the time that >I< think
> should be common knowledge, but based on someone else's experience and
> history may not be. Everyone is different.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Muhammad Nasim
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:49 AM
> To: Salau, Yemi
> Cc: Tony Schaffran; Anekwe, Abdul; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
>
> This really hurts me :) as I am going towards my CCIE w/o having CCIE
R/S
>
> but believe me I can do VLAN Configuration on the switches :)
>
> Its really amazing that a CCIE Sec don't know how to do VLAN
configuration
> on the switches
>
>
> On 7/10/07, Salau, Yemi <yemi.salau@siemens.com> wrote:
>>
>> In all honesty, I don't see any reason why Security CCIEs should be
>> dealing with FrameRelay, however to hear that, they there are few
ones
>> who can't deal with VLAN configuration on switches is simply
>> overwhelming.
>>
>> Many Thanks
>>
>> Yemi Salau
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Tony Schaffran
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:33 PM
>> To: 'Anekwe, Abdul'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
>>
>> In my opinion, it is not really about which path has more value, it
is
>> more about applying that path you have chosen.
>>
>> What path is your career taking you? Are you more of a security
>> engineer or a voice engineer? Are you looking at being an instructor
>> where you might consider getting each one?
>>
>> Have you heard of the term, jack of all trades, master of none?
>> Multiple
>> CCIE does not necessarily mean more valuable. Value is determined by
>> the needs of the employer.
>>
>> It is not the CCIE path that will determine the value, but rather how
>> you apply yourself in that path.
>>
>> Regardless of what path you decide to take, consider starting with
the
>> R&S as it is the foundation to most networking.
>>
>> I have seen a number of Security CCIE's that had no clue how to
>> configure a Frame Relay interface or even a simple VLAN configuration
>> on a switch.
>> For
>> me, I would not have much confidence in their CCIE abilities at that
>> point.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>> Tony Schaffran
>> Network Analyst
>> CCIE #11071
>> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
>> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>>
>> www.cconlinelabs.com
>> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Anekwe, Abdul
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:56 PM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
>>
>> All, ..I'm real curious. Been in the network engineering field for
>> like
>> 12 years, and after passing the CCIE-RS written and failing at the
>> lab, I took time off, but I'm back at it again (passed the written
and
>> now prepping for my lab). But I have a question for you all.
>>
>>
>>
>> ... in today's market place, which one is more valuable.
>>
>>
>>
>> CCIE-Voice, CCIE R&S, CCIE Security or another other CCIE path?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm just curious .....is there anyone more asked about than the
other?
>> Any more valuable in today's market place than the other? What are
>> clients, employee's asking about when it comes to skill set or
demands.
>>
>>
>>
>> Curious to hear your input.
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh by the way....been a silent listener to Groupstudy for years. Very
>> very good bulletin board.. Been like that for sometime.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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