From: Jason Guy \(jguy\) (jguy@cisco.com)
Date: Tue Jul 10 2007 - 11:04:32 ART
Yes this is true, but those datacenters still use a PDP11 or TRS80.
;)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Gary Duncanson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:18 AM
> To: Scott Morris
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
>
> Then there is the 'old CCIE R/S' stuff still lurking..ISDN..ATM..maybe
old
> bridging protcols SRB, DLSW+ and DECNet. Even a 3.12 Novell server
hiding
> someplace running IPX/SPX.
>
> It's off the workbooks but may be chugging away in a
datacentre/computer
> room near you someplace. It happens.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> To: "'Muhammad Nasim'" <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com>; "'Salau, Yemi'"
> <yemi.salau@siemens.com>
> Cc: "'Tony Schaffran'" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>; "'Anekwe,
Abdul'"
> <Abdul.Anekwe@sig.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:27 PM
> Subject: RE: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
>
>
> > Would it amaze you to see and R&S CCIE that cannot put security
> > configurations on an ASA?
> >
> > Everyone has their niches of experience.
> >
> > I think that vlans on a switch may be stretching it a little,
because
> they
> > SHOULD know how to do that from their lab exam! But I'm sure there
are
> > many
> > things that aren't known how to do. Each CCIE has it's limits, and
it's
> > up
> > to the individual beyond that.
> >
> > IMHO the more important thing was whether this CCIE was able to look
> > things
> > up and fix the problem or simply walked away. THAT is the bigger
issue.
> > But
> > nobody knows everything, and I hear things all the time that >I<
think
> > should be common knowledge, but based on someone else's experience
and
> > history may not be. Everyone is different.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE
> > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> > Muhammad Nasim
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:49 AM
> > To: Salau, Yemi
> > Cc: Tony Schaffran; Anekwe, Abdul; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
> >
> > This really hurts me :) as I am going towards my CCIE w/o having
CCIE
> R/S
> >
> > but believe me I can do VLAN Configuration on the switches :)
> >
> > Its really amazing that a CCIE Sec don't know how to do VLAN
> configuration
> > on the switches
> >
> >
> > On 7/10/07, Salau, Yemi <yemi.salau@siemens.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> In all honesty, I don't see any reason why Security CCIEs should be
> >> dealing with FrameRelay, however to hear that, they there are few
ones
> >> who can't deal with VLAN configuration on switches is simply
> >> overwhelming.
> >>
> >> Many Thanks
> >>
> >> Yemi Salau
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf
> >> Of Tony Schaffran
> >> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:33 PM
> >> To: 'Anekwe, Abdul'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
> >>
> >> In my opinion, it is not really about which path has more value, it
is
> >> more about applying that path you have chosen.
> >>
> >> What path is your career taking you? Are you more of a security
> >> engineer or a voice engineer? Are you looking at being an
instructor
> >> where you might consider getting each one?
> >>
> >> Have you heard of the term, jack of all trades, master of none?
> >> Multiple
> >> CCIE does not necessarily mean more valuable. Value is determined
by
> >> the needs of the employer.
> >>
> >> It is not the CCIE path that will determine the value, but rather
how
> >> you apply yourself in that path.
> >>
> >> Regardless of what path you decide to take, consider starting with
the
> >> R&S as it is the foundation to most networking.
> >>
> >> I have seen a number of Security CCIE's that had no clue how to
> >> configure a Frame Relay interface or even a simple VLAN
configuration
> >> on a switch.
> >> For
> >> me, I would not have much confidence in their CCIE abilities at
that
> >> point.
> >>
> >> Good luck.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tony Schaffran
> >> Network Analyst
> >> CCIE #11071
> >> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> >> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >>
> >> www.cconlinelabs.com
> >> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf
> >> Of Anekwe, Abdul
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:56 PM
> >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
> >>
> >> All, ..I'm real curious. Been in the network engineering field for
> >> like
> >> 12 years, and after passing the CCIE-RS written and failing at the
> >> lab, I took time off, but I'm back at it again (passed the written
and
> >> now prepping for my lab). But I have a question for you all.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ... in today's market place, which one is more valuable.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> CCIE-Voice, CCIE R&S, CCIE Security or another other CCIE path?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm just curious .....is there anyone more asked about than the
other?
> >> Any more valuable in today's market place than the other? What are
> >> clients, employee's asking about when it comes to skill set or
demands.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Curious to hear your input.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh by the way....been a silent listener to Groupstudy for years.
Very
> >> very good bulletin board.. Been like that for sometime.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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