RE: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)

From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Tue Jul 10 2007 - 09:27:56 ART


Would it amaze you to see and R&S CCIE that cannot put security
configurations on an ASA?

Everyone has their niches of experience.

I think that vlans on a switch may be stretching it a little, because they
SHOULD know how to do that from their lab exam! But I'm sure there are many
things that aren't known how to do. Each CCIE has it's limits, and it's up
to the individual beyond that.

IMHO the more important thing was whether this CCIE was able to look things
up and fix the problem or simply walked away. THAT is the bigger issue. But
nobody knows everything, and I hear things all the time that >I< think
should be common knowledge, but based on someone else's experience and
history may not be. Everyone is different.

HTH,

 
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Muhammad Nasim
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:49 AM
To: Salau, Yemi
Cc: Tony Schaffran; Anekwe, Abdul; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)

This really hurts me :) as I am going towards my CCIE w/o having CCIE R/S

but believe me I can do VLAN Configuration on the switches :)

Its really amazing that a CCIE Sec don't know how to do VLAN configuration
on the switches

On 7/10/07, Salau, Yemi <yemi.salau@siemens.com> wrote:
>
> In all honesty, I don't see any reason why Security CCIEs should be
> dealing with FrameRelay, however to hear that, they there are few ones
> who can't deal with VLAN configuration on switches is simply
> overwhelming.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Yemi Salau
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Tony Schaffran
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:33 PM
> To: 'Anekwe, Abdul'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
>
> In my opinion, it is not really about which path has more value, it is
> more about applying that path you have chosen.
>
> What path is your career taking you? Are you more of a security
> engineer or a voice engineer? Are you looking at being an instructor
> where you might consider getting each one?
>
> Have you heard of the term, jack of all trades, master of none?
> Multiple
> CCIE does not necessarily mean more valuable. Value is determined by
> the needs of the employer.
>
> It is not the CCIE path that will determine the value, but rather how
> you apply yourself in that path.
>
> Regardless of what path you decide to take, consider starting with the
> R&S as it is the foundation to most networking.
>
> I have seen a number of Security CCIE's that had no clue how to
> configure a Frame Relay interface or even a simple VLAN configuration
> on a switch.
> For
> me, I would not have much confidence in their CCIE abilities at that
> point.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Anekwe, Abdul
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:56 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: CCIE- Paths - (A Non technical question)
>
> All, ..I'm real curious. Been in the network engineering field for
> like
> 12 years, and after passing the CCIE-RS written and failing at the
> lab, I took time off, but I'm back at it again (passed the written and
> now prepping for my lab). But I have a question for you all.
>
>
>
> ... in today's market place, which one is more valuable.
>
>
>
> CCIE-Voice, CCIE R&S, CCIE Security or another other CCIE path?
>
>
>
> I'm just curious .....is there anyone more asked about than the other?
> Any more valuable in today's market place than the other? What are
> clients, employee's asking about when it comes to skill set or demands.
>
>
>
> Curious to hear your input.
>
>
>
> Oh by the way....been a silent listener to Groupstudy for years. Very
> very good bulletin board.. Been like that for sometime.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Muhammad Nasim
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