From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 08 2007 - 14:52:31 ART
Very true. The world of production networks is fraught with dangers for the
certified old hands as well as the certified new folks to the field.
Now you have the CCIE James I would imagine you will get some increasing
exposure to these hazards.
Still lots of people around who think you should know everything about
everything. People have broadband and linux firewalls at home now so
networking is easy right? Especially if you have a CCIE.
I had the same from more experienced colleagues in 1998 when I was the only
one in the IT Department doing the MCSE. I got my first MCP under my belt in
Windows 95 then asked about something and got back..'but you're an MCP
Gary!' i.e you have passed an exam and should know everything right? :)
Of course they would have liked an MCSE too but wouldn't get off their ass
to do it. Presumably because they felt they knew everything. About half way
through my MCSE I was to see for myself that this was most certainly not the
case :)
Still it's all part of the fun!
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustavo Novais" <gustavo.novais@novabase.pt>
To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; "James Russell"
<osuphd2b@yahoo.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE #18397; Cliffs notes included
Hi James,
Congrats on your achievement. I do not want to seem offensive, please
face this as a constructive criticism.
My suggestion to you, as of now, is to try to get that hands-on
experience that you've admitted to not have. Bear in mind, that people
are going to look at you as a CCIE, thinking that you will be able to
solve all of their problems, or answer all of their questions. Of course
that is not true, because no one knows everything, but that's not how
non-tech people see it. As it is said here lots of times, face your exam
passing as the beginning of the journey, and be humble, learn with the
more experienced, and don't think that passing the exam is the hard part
of being a CCIE.
Good luck
Gustavo Novais
#15622
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Gary Duncanson
Sent: domingo, 8 de Julho de 2007 17:40
To: James Russell
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE #18397; Cliffs notes included
James,
Good job. Nice and methodical and one year of unremitting hard work. It
can
be done.
Regards
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Russell" <osuphd2b@yahoo.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:25 PM
Subject: CCIE #18397; Cliffs notes included
> Ultra-short version: Passed R&S on 1st try at RTP. Woot!
>
> Short version: Passed R&S on 1st try at RTP. Thanks to (in no
particular
> order) my pregnant wife for being so understanding, The Brians, Scott
> Morris, Narbik, those of you who took time to answer my unicast
questions,
> and everyone who posts on GS.
>
> Long version: Wow, I'm still shaking! I started my journey in June
of
> last year. I had no Cisco experience at all, but I started the CCNA.
Got
> that on July 19th. Got hired as a network engineer and got my CCNP in
> October. Started on the written in Jan of this year and passed on Feb
> 3rd. Then I started on the lab. I used a well-known vendor's
workbook,
> and the following books:
>
> Routing TCP/IP Vols I and II
> Internet Routing Architectures
> Wendell Odom's QoS Exam Cert Guide
> BCMSN Exam Cert Guide
> The DocCD (duh!)
>
> My study routine usually consisted of renting 11 hours of rack time
every
> Saturday, and doing one of the labs 2 times. I would then spend the
next
> week reviewing the lab and configuring any confusing parts on my
mini-lab
> at work. As the weeks progressed, I would take some labs and do them
all
> in Windows notepad. No tabs or question marks to help. I also read
the
> complete command references several times for all routing protocols,
> QoS, frame relay, IP applications, IP addressing, switching, etc etc.
> Anything I couldn't understand, I labbed it up until I did understand
it.
>
> Ok, now for the lab itself. While doing the lab, and after completing
it,
> I was kind of confused about the whole thing. Either the test was
pretty
> straightforward and I had passed, or I was completely missing stuff
and I
> failed miserably. My initial feeling was that it was pretty
> straightforward. By lunch, I had read and at least attempted to
configure
> every single question on the lab. There were 3 or 4 that I had to
skip
> and come back to, though. After lunch, I went back and did those,
which
> took about an hour. I checked the whole thing and found a few errors.
> Checked it all again, and found 1 or 2 errors. Checked it all AGAIN
and
> found nothing that looked wrong. By this time there was about 45
minutes
> left in the lab.
>
> People say time management is key, and they are right. In my case, it
was
> make sure you slow down and triple-check everything. In other cases,
it
> might be to not spend too much time on 1 problem. The proctors were
very
> nice and helpful. They even asked me about one of my tattoos!
>
> Well, that's it. I'm going to eat some lunch!
>
> James Russell Jr.
> CCIE #18397
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
> Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at
Yahoo!
> Games.
>
>
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