From: Sean.Zimmerman@clubcorp.com
Date: Thu Jul 05 2007 - 13:03:46 ART
Go to certifications online support instant answers, and issue a query for
"lab attempts before passing". The answer states that most CCIE's pass on
their second or third try. That's the closest to a statistic that I've
ever seen from Cisco. Knowing this information really didn't help my
confidence after I failed my third attempt, so I had to come up with a lot
of defensive excuses. What isn't included in this number are those that
tried once or more and gave up, etc. I'd really like to know how many have
passed a written exam, then compare that to the number of CCIE's. I bet
you'd find that fewer than half earn their number, and in every case, this
is because they gave up, not because they weren't capable.
I'm sure that fewer people would even attempt it if they knew the odds or
the fact that it's statistically going to cost $2500 to $3750 just in lab
exam fees. Keeping the stats secret is obviously a strategy used by Cisco
to increase the profitability of the program. Cisco generated $5600 in
revenue directly from my exams.
Passing the lab for most requires a lot of persistence, and if you find
yourself failing over and over, change your strategy!
Sean Zimmerman #18225
"Mike Kraus \(mikraus\)" <mikraus@cisco.com>
Sent by: nobody@groupstudy.com
07/05/2007 09:33 AM
Please respond to
"Mike Kraus \(mikraus\)" <mikraus@cisco.com>
To
"Kyle MacDonald" <Kyle.MacDonald@pwgsc.gc.ca>, "John Jones"
<acer0001@gmail.com>
cc
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Subject
RE: How to start again after failing your first try
As a Cisco employee, I have not seen any of these pass/fail rates. I'm
sure those within the CCIE program do know, but do not release these
numbers as you state. But, as we all know, 57.32% of all statistics are
made up.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Kyle MacDonald
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:21 AM
To: John Jones
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: How to start again after failing your first try
I've seen these numbers before regarding pass/fail rates and number of
times to pass, but Cisco doesn't release any information about this.
Aren't we really just passing on rumour and second hand information as
fact? Is there any real information about these rates?
Kyle
Newly certified #18366
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
John Jones
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:30 AM
To: Colin McNamara
Cc: Mohamed Radwan; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: How to start again after failing your first try
Yes, Colin it's true... it's just a test, but monsterous one! ;-)
I remember reading somewhere that it takes Cisco employees, who usually
are limitless with resources, about 2.7 times to pass. You've got 1.7
times to go!
John
On 7/4/07, Colin McNamara <colin@2cups.com> wrote:
>
> Don't be down. I believe the average is 2.1 attempts per passing CCIE.
> With only 1 attempt down you are still ahead of the average.
>
> A couple of things to remember -
> 1. The CCIE is an extremely challenging exam with a huge failure rate.
> There is no shame in a failed attempt.
>
> 2. Half of the CCIE is brain power the other Half is will power. Being
> smart is not enough to get your Number. Being smart and being prepared
> however is.
>
> 3. The prep time required to pass your CCIE is a constant. There are
> no shortcuts to your number. You can either choose to put your time
> preparing before you next attempt, or you can chunk up your prep time
> between attempts. Either way, you have have to put the time in.
>
> 4. Don't forget your support systems. If you have a wife and kids,
> make sure that they are on board and well taken care of. If you are
> single, then make sure to schedule in some personal time to stay sane.
>
> 5. And remember, at the end of the day.... it is just a test.
>
> --
> Colin McNamara
> (858)208-8105
> CCIE #18233
> "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little
> longer"
>
>
> On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 15:45 +0300, Mohamed Radwan wrote:
> > Dear Group,
> >
> > I failed on my first try 12 June 2007 , I prepared well for the exam
> > but the Exam stress and some stupid mistakes I made cause me much
time.
> >
> > anyway I need to start again and get ready for the 2nd try I don't
> > need what to do ??
> >
> > I already read most of recommended books , practice a lot my weak
> > points are multicast, service, and security
> >
> > I know that have to learn more about these and practice them more,
> > but i don't feel like studying again
> >
> > any suggestion....
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mohamed
> >
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