From: Mike Kraus \(mikraus\) (mikraus@cisco.com)
Date: Fri Jun 29 2007 - 17:43:35 ART
I was able to bring some in in March @ RTP. Perhaps policy has changed.
With that being said, you can get a box of colored pencils for about $1.
Just bring them, and ask when you show up. If you aren't able to use
them, no big loss.
Last time I took the exam, with colored pencils and all, I was way too
worried about sticking to my testing strategy. This time, I'm taking an
alternate approach... Study the technology and then wing it! No colored
pencils, no ornate plan, maybe I'll redraw diagrams or maybe not, all
depends on my mood that fateful day! :D
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Jason Guy (jguy)
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:28 PM
To: Eric Dobyns; Petr Lapukhov; Arin and Rachel Richmond
Cc: Stephen Lee; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: More R&S Strategy
Just to update this checklist, I posted a question to the CCIE help page
and the reply was that you are *not* allowed to bring the color pencils,
regular pencils, or anything but yourself and ID. They said the lab has
color pencils available for our use. Can anyone confirm this (for RTP
at least)?
Thanks,
Jason
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Eric Dobyns
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:54 AM
> To: 'Petr Lapukhov'; 'Arin and Rachel Richmond'
> Cc: 'Stephen Lee'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: More R&S Strategy
>
> I'm still liking this (Petr's) approach:
> http://www.ksu.ru/petr/CCIE-RS-Checklist-draft-part-1-v2.txt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Petr
> Lapukhov
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:56 AM
> To: Arin and Rachel Richmond
> Cc: Stephen Lee; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: More R&S Strategy
>
> Reading the lab and making diagrams could be also viewed as a nice way
> to calm yourself down and reduce stress by the beginning of the exam.
> They also help you building concentration and getting in focus.
>
> It is well know that stress is the main enemy during the lab exam. So
> if you come to the lab, having a clear plan in your head, and you keep
> executing this plan, this will greatly help!
>
> Of course, planning and diagramming requires some additional practice
> along with your preparations. Do not underestimate importance of this
> techniques, for they can really make the difference between passing
or
> failing.
>
> --
> Petr Lapukhov, CCIE #16379 (R&S/Security/SP)
> petr@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>
> 2007/6/28, Arin and Rachel Richmond <therichmonds@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would definitely recommend reading the entire lab at the beginning
to
> > identify any dependencies of one section on another. Say you had to
put
> > Multicast on your topology and you were not permitted to use static
> > mroutes.
> > In this scenario you need to ensure your routing is complementary to
the
> > paths that have PIM enabled, otherwise you will run into RPF issues.
> >
> > This is just one example of where you will come unstuck if you don't
get
> > the
> > bigger picture at the start of the lab. Having said that, this will
not
> > always be a problem, it depends heavily on the tasks of your lab,
but
> how
> > do
> > you know if it will be a problem or not if you do not read ahead?
> >
> > As for diagrams. Do what feels right when you are practicing. Stick
to
> the
> > same style and plan in the real thing. You will know how long it
takes
> to
> > complete practice labs and if you have time to diagram or not, just
be
> > sure
> > to budget extra time for the stress factor.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Arin
> > CCIE #18318
> >
> > On 28/06/07, Stephen Lee <slee@packet360.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know about that plan.
> > >
> > > In my experience if you do everything that was laid out in that
plan
> you
> > > do not leave enough time for troubleshooting at the end. I
finished
> the
> > > entire thing at 1:30 on my 1st and still didn't have enough time
for
> > > troubleshooting a couple key things and failed by a couple points.
> > >
> > > I think redrawing something that is already given to you is just
> wasting
> > > precious time and that is something you cannot do and expect to
pass.
> > > Also do you expect to remember something from the last section
that
> you
> > > read 5 hours ago when you actually get to it?
> > >
> > > I have had multiple people who have passed it say just read the
> section
> > > you are working on thouroughly and don't worry about reading the
> entire
> > > lab at the beginning. You will not remember it by the time you get
to
> it
> > > because you are so immersed in what you are doing that you just
waste
> > > time in the beginning....
> > >
> > > Just my .02 cents and everybody's brain works differently so what
> might
> > > work for me doesn't for someone else.
> > >
> > > Good luck on your 2nd attempt Eric. Mine is on 7/9... :)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf
> Of
> > > Eric Dobyns
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:23 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: More R&S Strategy
> > >
> > > Any more documents out there like this one?
> > > http://www.ksu.ru/petr/CCIE-RS-Checklist-draft-part-1-v2.txt
> > >
> > >
>
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