From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Jun 26 2007 - 19:49:15 ART
I totally agree with Scott, i think 10000 and RS1s should be appropriate for
the CCIE labs exam.
On 6/26/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>
> Now, now... Relax a little.
>
> Yes, there are two switches on Ebay over 100K, but if you think that Cisco
> is going to require 6509E's with dual Sup720's and other super-fancy
> blades
> including 10gig interfaces on the CCIE lab, I'm thinking they'll have just
> a
> minor riot going on in Anaheim when they announce that! (grin)
>
> So let's stick with more realistic options and discussions rather than the
> I'm-in-love-with-my-AM wish list.
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
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>
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>
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>
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> From: john matijevic [mailto:john.matijevic@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:35 PM
> To: Brad Ellis
> Cc: Digital Yemeni; Scott Morris; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
>
>
> Hello All,
> Yes depending on the modules you get can easily run over 100k for a Cisco
> series switch. No need for smart comments, we can discuss offline if you
> like. I don't find your jokes funny.
> Here is a link to ebay for 6500's over 100k.
> http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40
> <
> http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=cisco
> +6509&category0> &_trksid=m37&satitle=cisco+6509&category0 =
>
>
> Sincerely,
> John
>
>
> On 6/23/07, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>
> $100k and i don't think JC would even call to see if it got installed
> properly...now if you bump that up to $10M, then you could probably get JC
> onsite to put a blade in the chasis - although i'm not certain you'd want
> that...
>
> I think some people seem to forget that the 6500s are currently on the
> voice
> lab exam - not to mention it looks like there's quite a few 6503s
> available
> in refurb at the moment. :)
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI#30482
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Digital Yemeni" < digital.yemeni@gmail.com>
> To: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> Cc: < ccielab@groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab@groupstudy.com> >
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
>
>
> Nope! That 100K actually includes the charges because John Chambers
> himself
> will install it for you! ;-)
>
> On 6/23/07, dschulz@skyline-ats.com <dschulz@skyline-ats.com> wrote:
> >
> > That would probably include the electric bill to power the thing.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > > $100,000?
> > >
> > > You don't get to Ebay much, do you? :)
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: john matijevic [mailto: john.matijevic@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 2:09 PM
> > > To: Jason Plank
> > > Cc: Ryan; Joe Mama; Gary Duncanson; Scott Morris;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > > CCIE is a software certification from what I understand used to also
> > test
> > > hardware with cabling when it was a 2 day lab. You could not only test
> > the
> > > 6500 but you could test how to mount a 6500 or how to put in a blade,
> > > cabling, how to put in a new jack, how to punch down. There are many
> > > aspects
> > > of networking out there, not to mention how to use a fluke/toner how
> to
> > > test
> > > continuity vs connectivity. How to test out the pins on the wire, how
> > to
> > > test from the jack on the wall plate to the patch panels to the
> switch.
> > > Again this is a software certification. Also if you introduce the 6500
> > on
> > > the lab, most people would not be able to afford a $100000+ piece of
> > > equipment in their home labs. It would drive the cost up considerably
> > but
> > > would lower the number of CCIE's. which probably would not be in
> Cisco's
> > > best interest. Just my .02 cents
> > > Sincerely,
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/22/07, Jason Plank <Jason_Plank@condenast.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > *golf clap*
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/22/07 1:12 PM, "Ryan" <ryan95842@gmail.com
> > > <mailto:ryan95842@gmail.com <mailto:ryan95842@gmail.com> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> 65xx/76xx
> > >>
> > >> It's a freaking router people!!! (ok, Multi-layer switch)...what's
> the
> > >> big
> > >> deal???
> > >>
> > >> Why is everyone so scared and intimidated of the thing? I seriously
> > >> don't
> > >> get it...
> > >>
> > >> Maybe someone could explain why it's so "hard" to use one...I've been
> > > using
> > >> them for over 6 years...so what. Nothing on the 6509 I've done has
> > > required
> > >> any kind of magical super talent/knowledge.
> > >>
> > >> It's just another piece of hardware folks...big whoop.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Ryan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 6/22/07, Joe Mama <jsmith1234550@gmail.com
> <mailto:jsmith1234550@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:jsmith1234550@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> All,
> > >>>
> > >>> One more thing....
> > >>>
> > >>> Every large company will buy a 6500 and Cisco really doesn't need to
> > >>> market this platform all that much as the 3560. Most companies I've
> > >>> worked for use them for Access, Dsitribution, Core, etc. There
> really
>
> > >>> is no competiton; a 6500 is awesome!
> > >>>
> > >>> If every CCIE knows the 3560, then, when they go to make a choice
> for
> > >>> a small site, etc/ they will know all of the features and choose the
> > >>> trusty switch that got them their ccie......you see what i
> mean? The
> > >>> CCIE is a good way for Cisco to market their newer products that are
> > >>> not that well klnown but are great for a small site. Cisco's main
> > >>> competion is in this area. In some of our very small sites, we run
> > >>> 2811's / 3560's / 3845's and they are fantastic and extremely
> powerful
> > >>> (in RAM and feature set capability, etc..) and I certainly am very
> > >>> comfortable with them due to my studies, etc. and would not even
> > >>> propose another type of network device (from another company)
> because
> > >>> I am so confident in their abilities.
> > >>>
> > >>> The 3560 and 3845 platforms are great! Of course, for any decent
> size
> > >>> campus, only 65xx-E with SUP720x will do, but Cisco really doesn't
> > >>> need to push this. Also, as was mentioned, having 4 6500's in a
> > >>> regualr R&S lab would limit the number of people going for CCIes
> which
> > >>> would not be good for Cisco......
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Joe
> > >>>
> > >>> Andre
> > >>>
> > >>> Joe
> > >>>
> > >>> On 6/22/07, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com
> <mailto:gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> > wrote:
> > >>>> Yeah,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In some situations a CCIE is a metric of what you should be
> *capable*
> > >>> of,
> > >>>> not necessarily what you can *do* straight off the bat.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Nobody knows everything. The CCIE provides as much as is reasonable
> > on
> > >>> the
> > >>>> 'stuff to learn' and 'stuff to do' front. How far a candidate
> chooses
>
> > >>>> to
> > >
> > >>>> take that is a variable.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For example the recommended reading list does covers a lot of
> things
> > >>> that
> > >>>> are not tested in the lab but are still potentially very useful to
> > >>>> know.
> > >
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think it's very useful for a CCIE to have at least a handle on
> > >>> switching
> > >>>> platforms that are not tested but if you check the recommended
> > reading
> > >>>> list..its there in Kennedy Clark and has been for 8 years..
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1578700949
> > > <
> <http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1578700949&rl=1>
> http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1578700949&rl=1>
> > > &rl=1
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So you can certainly get some knowhow there during the course of
> your
>
> > >>> CCIE
> > >>>> studies.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In the lab today, ISDN etc is off. That doesn't mean we won't ever
> > >>>> find
> > >>> ISDN
> > >>>> out there or DLSW+ or connections to DEC/VAX someplace.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But whatever you come up against in the world of work I would say
> > >>>> having
> > >>> a
> > >>>> CCIE probably demonstrates to an employer that you are quite
> capable
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> figuring more than a few things out.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "Scott Morris" < <mailto: smorris@ipexpert.com>
> > > smorris@ipexpert.com>
> > >>>> To: "'Jason Plank'" < Jason_Plank@condenast.com
> <mailto:Jason_Plank@condenast.com> >; "'Serdar Kut'"
> > >>>> < <mailto:kutserdar@gmail.com> kutserdar@gmail.com
> <mailto:kutserdar@gmail.com> >; "'Narbik
> > > Kocharians'" <narbikk@gmail.com>
> > >>>> Cc: "'Mike Kraus (mikraus)'" < <mailto: mikraus@cisco.com
> <mailto:mikraus@cisco.com> >
> > > mikraus@cisco.com>; "'Eric Dobyns'"
> > >>>> <eric_dobyns@yahoo.com <mailto:eric_dobyns@yahoo.com> >; "'Digital
> Yemeni'" <
> > > <mailto:digital.yemeni@gmail.com> digital.yemeni@gmail.com >;
> > >>>> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >>>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:29 PM
> > >>>> Subject: RE: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> What are you looking for the CCIE to do for you? If you are
> telling
> > >>> me
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>> a person who has his/her CCIE cannot reasonably sit down and
> FIGURE
> > >>> OUT
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> 6500 or new things, then I'd say that person didn't study enough
> for
> > >>> their
> > >>>>> exam and got pretty damned lucky.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Nobody knows everything. And you can't design a test around
> > >>> everything.
> > >>>>> While marketing people would love you for saying it's their top
> > >>> product, I
> > >>>>> would say that certainly has to do with what market/application
> you
> > >>> are
> > >>>>> playing in. If it's all you see, I'm happy for you, but it's not
> all
>
> > >>>>> that's
> > >>>>> out there!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So how many pieces of equipment would you like to see show up in
> the
> > >>> CCIE
> > >>>>> lab?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Not having touched and knowing nothing are two completely
> different
> > >>>>> concepts. There are many blades on a 6500 I haven't touched
> before,
>
> > >>> but
> > >>>>> I'd
> > >>>>> like to think I could figure them out if needed! THAT is being a
> > >>> CCIE.
> > >>>>> Not
> > >>>>> necessarily touching anything and everything.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Relax and focus on the important things.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Should you need to renew/retake your drivers license if you decide
> > >>>>> you
> > >>>>> want
> > >>>>> an SUV instead of a car, or a hybrid instead of a "regular"
> car? Or
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>> pickup truck?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I mean... They ARE different.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> #4713,
> > >>> JNCIE
> > >>>>> #153, CISSP, et al.
> > >>>>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > >>>>> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > >>>>> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> smorris@ipexpert.com <mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > >>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > >>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> From: Jason Plank [mailto:Jason_Plank@condenast.com
> <mailto:Jason_Plank@condenast.com>
> > > <mailto:Jason_Plank@condenast.com> ]
> > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:33 PM
> > >>>>> To: Scott Morris; 'Serdar Kut'; 'Narbik Kocharians'
> > >>>>> Cc: 'Mike Kraus (mikraus)'; 'Eric Dobyns'; 'Digital Yemeni';
> > >>>>> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So you think it helps the value of the CCIE that it can produce a
> > >>>>> CCIE
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>> knows NOTHING about a 6500? What is cisco's top product? What are
> > you
> > >>>>> considered if you are a CCIE. Doesn't mesh in my mind.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Totally disagree.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 6/21/07 1:38 PM, "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Should it matter?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The CCIE tests your knowledge of technologies, not product.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The stuff you can do with a 6500 at a basic switching technology
> > >>> level
> > >>>>>> isn't really any different than the switches we currently
> have. If
> > >>> we
> > >>>>>> start taking service modules, that's different, but that's a
> whole
> > >>> new
> > >>>>>> technology base.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> *shrug* HUGE expense difference not only for them to rollout,
> but
> > >>>>>> foreveryone to study!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> #4713,
> > >>>>>> JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> > >>>>>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > >>>>>> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > >>>>>> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> smorris@ipexpert.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > >>>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > >>>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com>
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf
> > >>>>>> Of Serdar Kut
> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:55 AM
> > >>>>>> To: Narbik Kocharians
> > >>>>>> Cc: Mike Kraus (mikraus); Eric Dobyns; Digital Yemeni;
> > >>>>>> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I actually agree with Narbik..It is a big shame not to be aware
> of
> > >>>>>> 6500 and 4500 chasis and config tricks for a CCIE I think. And
> > also,
> > >>>>>> as a CCIE, most of time I deal with big chasis, not much with
> 3560s
> > >>> or
> > >>>>> less.
> > >>>>>> It should be good I think
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Serdar Kut
> > >>>>>> CCIE#18130
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 6/20/07, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Actually i hope they do that, because that would be the closest
> > >>> thing
> > >>>>>>> to the real world. No matter where you go these days, you see at
> > >>>>>>> least one 6500 series up and running. I think it would benefit
> the
>
> > >>>>> program.
> > >>>>>>> You may see a 3560 here and there, but you will definitely see a
> > >>>>>>> lot
> > >>>>>>> of firms having 6500 series. To be honest i typically see a
> > mixture
> > >>>>>>> of 4000/4500 and a 6500 in a collapsed core design.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 6/19/07, Mike Kraus (mikraus) < mikraus@cisco.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Not sure of the point of that in the R&S lab.... Really don't
> see
>
> > >>>>>>>> them starting to test on the service modules on the 6500 in the
> > >>> R&S.
> > >>>>>>>> And, in many cases the 3560 has greater feature velocity. So,
> it
>
> > >>>>>>>> would cost the CCIE program more money, a more rack space, but
> > >>>>>>>> doesn't really give them many more test topics.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com>
> > > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > >>> Behalf
> > >>>>>>>> Of Eric Dobyns
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:30 PM
> > >>>>>>>> To: 'Digital Yemeni'; 'Narbik Kocharians'
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I believe you have a 3550 and 3 3650 all running L3, which
> > >>> basically
> > >>>>>>>> means you've got 13 routers to deal with.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
> > > <mailto: <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On
> > >>> Behalf
> > >>>>>>>> Of Digital Yemeni
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:49 PM
> > >>>>>>>> To: Narbik Kocharians
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> nope nope! Cisco has recently faced some severe budget
> > limitations
> > >>>>>>>> and brought back the 2500s and L2 1900 switches!! :p
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Brad, since you're a Cisco Sponsored Organization, the
> > >>>>>>>> confirmation
> > >>>>>>>> (not the
> > >>>>>>>> question!) should come from you isn't it? ;-)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 6/20/07, Narbik Kocharians < narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I heard 85xx and 12xxx
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 6/19/07, Brad Ellis < brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Anyone else hear this?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>> Brad Ellis
> > >>>>>>>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > >>>>>>>>>> CCSI#30482
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> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Narbik Kocharians
> > >>>>>>>>> CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > >>>>>>>>> CCSI# 30832
> > >>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>> Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough
> $$
>
> > >>>>>>>> out of me!
> > >>>>>>>> :p
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> > >>>>>>> CCSI# 30832
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> > > John Matijevic
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> > > 954-969-7160 ext. 1147 (office)
> > > 305-321-6232 (cell)
> > >
> > >
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> --
> Best Regards!
> Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out of
> me!
>
> :p
>
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> John Matijevic
> Insight Global
> 954-969-7160 ext. 1147 (office)
> 305-321-6232 (cell)
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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>
-- Narbik Kocharians CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) CCSI# 30832
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