From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Thu Jun 21 2007 - 18:04:12 ART
Right, so again we're in module specific things, and certainly nothing that
we can say is the "standard" out there. Thus my point about not gaining
anything by moving to these boxes.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Blaine Williams [mailto:williams.blaine@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:19 PM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: Serdar Kut; Narbik Kocharians; Mike Kraus (mikraus); Eric Dobyns;
Digital Yemeni; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
There is one big difference. Layer 2 QoS on a 6500 is a whole new game that
depends heavily on the modules installed on the box. While essentially, its
WRR queuing like the 3550, almost every module has a different number of
queues and thresholds and may or may not have a priority queue.
It's just so much nicer not to have to worry about 1p7q8t queuing on the
exam.
Blaine Williams
On 6/21/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> Should it matter?
>
> The CCIE tests your knowledge of technologies, not product.
>
> The stuff you can do with a 6500 at a basic switching technology level
> isn't really any different than the switches we currently have. If we
> start taking service modules, that's different, but that's a whole new
> technology base.
>
> *shrug* HUGE expense difference not only for them to rollout, but
> foreveryone to study!
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Serdar Kut
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:55 AM
> To: Narbik Kocharians
> Cc: Mike Kraus (mikraus); Eric Dobyns; Digital Yemeni;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
>
> I actually agree with Narbik..It is a big shame not to be aware of
> 6500 and 4500 chasis and config tricks for a CCIE I think. And also,
> as a CCIE, most of time I deal with big chasis, not much with 3560s or
less.
> It should be good I think
>
>
>
> Serdar Kut
> CCIE#18130
>
>
> On 6/20/07, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Actually i hope they do that, because that would be the closest
> > thing to the real world. No matter where you go these days, you see
> > at least one 6500 series up and running. I think it would benefit the
program.
> > You may see a 3560 here and there, but you will definitely see a lot
> > of firms having 6500 series. To be honest i typically see a mixture
> > of 4000/4500 and a 6500 in a collapsed core design.
> >
> >
> > On 6/19/07, Mike Kraus (mikraus) <mikraus@cisco.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure of the point of that in the R&S lab.... Really don't see
> > > them starting to test on the service modules on the 6500 in the R&S.
> > > And, in many cases the 3560 has greater feature velocity. So, it
> > > would cost the CCIE program more money, a more rack space, but
> > > doesn't really give them many more test topics.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Eric Dobyns
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:30 PM
> > > To: 'Digital Yemeni'; 'Narbik Kocharians'
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
> > >
> > > I believe you have a 3550 and 3 3650 all running L3, which
> > > basically means you've got 13 routers to deal with.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Digital Yemeni
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:49 PM
> > > To: Narbik Kocharians
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
> > >
> > > nope nope! Cisco has recently faced some severe budget limitations
> > > and brought back the 2500s and L2 1900 switches!! :p
> > >
> > > Brad, since you're a Cisco Sponsored Organization, the
> > > confirmation (not the
> > > question!) should come from you isn't it? ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/20/07, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I heard 85xx and 12xxx
> > > >
> > > > On 6/19/07, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone else hear this?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > Brad Ellis
> > > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > > > > CCSI#30482
> > > > > Network Learning Inc - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO) YES!
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