From: Salau, Yemi (yemi.salau@siemens.com)
Date: Tue Jun 19 2007 - 11:07:11 ART
In the Lab, He who brings down his Layer-2 should also be the one to
bring it back up... At least he will find this out one way or the other.
Although I suppose there are those who use CCIE Lab Racks as another
collection of Practise Labs.
With regards to Proctors, I have decided to be diplomatic, maybe when I
get my magic numbers I wouldn't .... But for now, Proctors are my best
friends in this Business :-) lol!
Many Thanks
Yemi Salau
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joe Rinehart
Sent: 18 June 2007 18:34
To: 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Scott Morris'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
Although occasionally a lab candidate will do something unintentional
like
setting PAGP unconditionally that subsequently takes down the entire
Layer 2
switching backbone in the lab...
Although that is just an anecdotal tale :)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Gary
Duncanson
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:24 AM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
I think this is just another manifestation of 'The Fear'.
Proctors do not sabotage or screw around with lab candidates
configurations.
They do read groupstudy though :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: "'Digital Yemeni'" <digital.yemeni@gmail.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> CCIE Ghost Whisperers? ;)
>
> While personally, I would expect the troubleshooting portion to expand
a
> bit, the ideas where I see it going have nothing to do with live,
> intermittant, random things being injected. That would be unfair on
many
> levels.
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>
> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
>
> smorris@ipexpert.com
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Digital Yemeni
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:31 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
>
> While it's VERY unreasonable for something like this to happen, the
only
> worry is that spreading of these rumors may make them come for real
one
> day!! :) I guess some guys are just stressed before even entering the
> lab!!
> ;-) If anyone has this amount of stress before even getting into the
real
> thing i would assure you that he/she can see ghosts on the lab booklet
as
> well! :)
>
>
>
>
> On 6/18/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>>
>> While obviously it's hard to track things like that, I'd venture to
>> say there's nothing the proctor has to gain by doing things like that
>> mid-config. If they wanted to make you fail, they could just wait
>> until the end of the exam and change whatever they felt like
changing.
>>
>> While troubleshooting IS indeed part of the testing process, it's
>> fairly well spelled out. And from what I remember reading in
>> Maurillio's Ask-the-Expert Q&A session on NetPro, it was specifically
>> mentioned about the problems in startup configs and not ongoing
changes
> introduced.
>>
>> Depending on your process of configuration, (e.g. cut 'n' paste) I'd
>> say there's a myriad of possibilities to introduce errors like that
>> all by yourself without any outside intervention.
>>
>> No offense to anyone who mentions this has happened to them, but it's
>> just not plausible. If the proctor had it out for you, in that they
>> wanted you to fail, there are so many other ways to do it without
>> introducing the potential of getting caught that this makes no sense.
>>
>>
>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>> JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
>> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
>> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>>
>> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
>>
>> smorris@ipexpert.com
>>
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>> http://www.ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of wjoh71@gmail.com
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:55 AM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I also had the same problem. 30 minutes before the end of exam in
>> BRUSSELS, I noticed a couple of changes in the routers and switches.
>> For example,
>>
>> 1. network statement (ip address ) under ospf got changed.
>> 2. area 1 nssa kept in the other router though i configured in the
>> right router.
>> 3. additional eigrp process was running in the router.
>>
>> I am not sure whether these are part of exam troubleshooting or these
>> are introduced by the proctors intentionally to make the candidates
to
> fail.
>> Could any one comment on this?.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Joh
>>
>>
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