From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Mon Jun 18 2007 - 23:23:32 ART
There's nothing like the concept of total public humliation combined with
the immortality of the Internet to try to make people be honest. ;)
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Jonny English
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:56 PM
To: German Gonzalez
Cc: Daniel Fredrick; Benjamin Hill; huang pung; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: All the genuine guys accept my appology.
Well said. There is this dude at work. His study method was to read these
dumps. He passed all the CCVP exams within about 2-3 months, and no VoIP
experience. He spends most of this time at other peoples desks trying to
solve faults. It ticks me off, that he can cheat his way through a cert and
then can't do his job when a CCVP should be able to spot simple things like
extension mobility and whatnot.
On 6/19/07, German Gonzalez <ccie.gergonza@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Would this be a variation of the proctor attack? :P
>
> I must say that even though I did find it kind of funny, I think it's
> one's responsibility to take the test with the respect it deserves.
> Even if someone did buy it and did pass it, its only going to bring
> him/(her?) problems when they are put to the real test, the one that
> comes afterwards.
> I've seen many people get Professional level certifications just by
> reading mock Tests (not reading any real books) and they were all very
> happy about their new certs until their employers started demanding
> more complex tasks from them. Most of them are having a pretty hard
> time at keeping their jobs/respect of teammates. Karma is a bitch and
> it will get you ;).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Daniel Fredrick
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:07 AM
> To: Benjamin Hill
> Cc: huang pung; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: All the genuine guys accept my appology.
>
> Agreed... I was laughing as well. Although, it's not like he could
> have done anything dangerous... like get them banned from taking the
> test.
>
> The only thing he could have done was to post their names on here and
> maybe embaress those people.
>
> Maybe something like that should be done more often... people should
> be so terrified to cheat... they don't even risk it.
>
> Just a note to all of the people that attempted to buy from Huang.
> There are actually Cisco Lab Procotors out there that will attempt to
> trap you in a similar way. Once caught, they will ban you from taking
> the test. I spoke to several procotors that told me about how they do
> it.
>
> anywho... GOOD LUCK!!!
>
>
>
> On 6/18/07, Benjamin Hill <ibennybravo@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think its pretty damn funny what huang did - Why is everyone so
> > uptight about it?
> >
> > I think it should be done more often.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/18/07, huang pung <huang_pung@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > All the lazy guys who contacted me to purchase what I offered to
> > > sell:
> > >
> > > Would you mind if I published your names and email addresses in
> > > the group or else where?
> > >
> > > First I wanted to collect your money and give it out as charity
> > > and also publish your names on a site inorder to give you lazy
> > > guys a good lesson but I changed my mind.
> > >
> > > I thought thats too cruel. I did not do that. Instead I give you
> > > some friendly advise: Study and dont go after these things. CCIE
> > > is all about its challenge and the years you have to struggle to
> > > earn it.
> > > How embarrased would you be if I published your names?
> > > Beleive me you would be much more embarrased if you cant do your
> > > job correctly as a CCIE. CCIE is not only about the salary.
> > > Consider the responsibility of a mission critical network will be
given to you.
> > > Can you handle that responsibility?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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