From: cisco efiko (ciscoefiko@googlemail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 18 2007 - 14:50:22 ART
Isn't it amazing that BRUSSELS is at the heart of all of these? I had my 1st
try in San Jose and 2nd at Brussels and I can definately say that it
wouldn't have mattered if there were no Proctors in Brussels because the
word "Proctor" was presented to me far from what I experienced in SJ (five
years ago). Meanwhile having said that, I think they should rotate proctors
so that the good guys @ SJ and the "gentlemen" of Dubai would come over to
Europe!
I am not saving I have failed because of these factors (didn't pass in SJ
anyway) but I know the difference is very clear!!.
I have a couple of friends that have passed in Brussels and I'll be joining
them soon enough!
Efiko
On 6/18/07, Marko Milivojevic <markom@vodafone.is> wrote:
>
> But when you come to think of it... Them messing up with your lab would be
> equivalent of real-word fresh blood engineer trying to configure something
> in your network? That must be nr. 1 cause of troubleshooting :-)
>
> With that in mind, one of my colleagues configured one thing by mistake
> today -- "ip vrf forwarding" in the top level configuration. Even though
> being 99.9% sure what this means, it took some guts taking it out ;-)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Gary Duncanson
> Sent: 18. jznm 2007 15:24
> To: Scott Morris
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
>
> I think this is just another manifestation of 'The Fear'.
>
> Proctors do not sabotage or screw around with lab candidates
> configurations.
>
> They do read groupstudy though :)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> To: "'Digital Yemeni'" <digital.yemeni@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:41 PM
> Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
>
>
> > CCIE Ghost Whisperers? ;)
> >
> > While personally, I would expect the troubleshooting portion to expand a
> > bit, the ideas where I see it going have nothing to do with live,
> > intermittant, random things being injected. That would be unfair on
> many
> > levels.
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE
> > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >
> > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> >
> > smorris@ipexpert.com
> >
> > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Digital Yemeni
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:31 AM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> > While it's VERY unreasonable for something like this to happen, the only
> > worry is that spreading of these rumors may make them come for real one
> > day!! :) I guess some guys are just stressed before even entering the
> > lab!!
> > ;-) If anyone has this amount of stress before even getting into the
> real
> > thing i would assure you that he/she can see ghosts on the lab booklet
> as
> > well! :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/18/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> While obviously it's hard to track things like that, I'd venture to
> >> say there's nothing the proctor has to gain by doing things like that
> >> mid-config. If they wanted to make you fail, they could just wait
> >> until the end of the exam and change whatever they felt like changing.
> >>
> >> While troubleshooting IS indeed part of the testing process, it's
> >> fairly well spelled out. And from what I remember reading in
> >> Maurillio's Ask-the-Expert Q&A session on NetPro, it was specifically
> >> mentioned about the problems in startup configs and not ongoing changes
> > introduced.
> >>
> >> Depending on your process of configuration, (e.g. cut 'n' paste) I'd
> >> say there's a myriad of possibilities to introduce errors like that
> >> all by yourself without any outside intervention.
> >>
> >> No offense to anyone who mentions this has happened to them, but it's
> >> just not plausible. If the proctor had it out for you, in that they
> >> wanted you to fail, there are so many other ways to do it without
> >> introducing the potential of getting caught that this makes no sense.
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >> JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> >> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> >> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >>
> >> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> >>
> >> smorris@ipexpert.com
> >>
> >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> >> http://www.ipexpert.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> Of wjoh71@gmail.com
> >> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:55 AM
> >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I also had the same problem. 30 minutes before the end of exam in
> >> BRUSSELS, I noticed a couple of changes in the routers and switches.
> >> For example,
> >>
> >> 1. network statement (ip address ) under ospf got changed.
> >> 2. area 1 nssa kept in the other router though i configured in the
> >> right router.
> >> 3. additional eigrp process was running in the router.
> >>
> >> I am not sure whether these are part of exam troubleshooting or these
> >> are introduced by the proctors intentionally to make the candidates to
> > fail.
> >> Could any one comment on this?.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Joh
> >>
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> >
> > --
> > Best Regards!
> > Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out of
> > me!
> > :p
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