Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor

From: joh willi (wjoh71@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 18 2007 - 10:10:05 ART


Thanks for the comments. Please look at
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200706/msg00508.html. It has
already happened.

- Joh

On 6/18/07, Digital Yemeni <digital.yemeni@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yah very true! :)
>
> I mean think about it,,, if u finish the lab and walked off the room i can
> do anything i want to your config! why on earth i would do it in the
> middle
> if my intention is to make you fail the lab?! I personally know and feel
> that proctors are HUMAN before being they are Cisco's staff! It would be
> VERY cruel to make some one fail just because you feel like it! That
> person
> spent a heck lot of time, money and effort and fly aaaaaaall the way to
> you...would you have the heart to just kill him?! damn! that would really
> be
> a painful thing to happen! :(
>
> On 6/18/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> > CCIE Ghost Whisperers? ;)
> >
> > While personally, I would expect the troubleshooting portion to expand a
> > bit, the ideas where I see it going have nothing to do with live,
> > intermittant, random things being injected. That would be unfair on
> many
> > levels.
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE
> > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >
> > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> >
> > smorris@ipexpert.com
> >
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Digital Yemeni
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:31 AM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> > While it's VERY unreasonable for something like this to happen, the only
> > worry is that spreading of these rumors may make them come for real one
> > day!! :) I guess some guys are just stressed before even entering the
> > lab!!
> > ;-) If anyone has this amount of stress before even getting into the
> real
> > thing i would assure you that he/she can see ghosts on the lab booklet
> as
> > well! :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/18/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > While obviously it's hard to track things like that, I'd venture to
> > > say there's nothing the proctor has to gain by doing things like that
> > > mid-config. If they wanted to make you fail, they could just wait
> > > until the end of the exam and change whatever they felt like changing.
> > >
> > > While troubleshooting IS indeed part of the testing process, it's
> > > fairly well spelled out. And from what I remember reading in
> > > Maurillio's Ask-the-Expert Q&A session on NetPro, it was specifically
> > > mentioned about the problems in startup configs and not ongoing
> changes
> > introduced.
> > >
> > > Depending on your process of configuration, (e.g. cut 'n' paste) I'd
> > > say there's a myriad of possibilities to introduce errors like that
> > > all by yourself without any outside intervention.
> > >
> > > No offense to anyone who mentions this has happened to them, but it's
> > > just not plausible. If the proctor had it out for you, in that they
> > > wanted you to fail, there are so many other ways to do it without
> > > introducing the potential of getting caught that this makes no sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > > JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >
> > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > >
> > > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > >
> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > http://www.ipexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > > Of wjoh71@gmail.com
> > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:55 AM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I also had the same problem. 30 minutes before the end of exam in
> > > BRUSSELS, I noticed a couple of changes in the routers and switches.
> > > For example,
> > >
> > > 1. network statement (ip address ) under ospf got changed.
> > > 2. area 1 nssa kept in the other router though i configured in the
> > > right router.
> > > 3. additional eigrp process was running in the router.
> > >
> > > I am not sure whether these are part of exam troubleshooting or these
> > > are introduced by the proctors intentionally to make the candidates to
> > fail.
> > > Could any one comment on this?.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Joh
> > >
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> > --
> > Best Regards!
> > Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out of
> > me!
> > :p
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