From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jun 15 2007 - 22:51:00 ART
Congrates mate you have two to go
On 6/15/07, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Congrats Brian McGhan on becoming tripple CCIE : )
>
>
>
> On 6/16/07, Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > yeah, you have to pause and restart everytime you go from command line
> to
> > slides so the new slide that you are talking about comes up on he
> screen.
> >
> > On 6/16/07, Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > FYI the review mode problem was fixed. If you see that the
> > > audio and video start to desync email support@internetworkexpert.com
> > > with the specific recording and time index so we can have the adobe
> > > engineers look at the files themselves. Increasing the size of your
> > > flash player cache helps, as does periodically pausing a recording for
> > > 10 seconds or so and starting it again.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
> > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
> > > Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705
> > > 24/7 Support: http://forum.internetworkexpert.com
> > > Live Chat: http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Leigh Nash
> > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:02 AM
> > > To: 'Digital Yemeni'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: training material question
> > >
> > > I think the Adobe software made quite an improvement.
> > > The previous software had a terrible time with fast forward, among
> other
> > > things.
> > > The Adobe audio is much better and the video looks crisp too.
> > > You can adjust the size of the display if you have a hard time reading
> > > the
> > > command line.
> > >
> > > The IE Service Provider material is dreamy to watch in this new
> format.
> > >
> > > Leigh
> > > 16543
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Digital Yemeni
> > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 7:02 AM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: training material question
> > >
> > > I absolutely agree that Adobe Flash screwed up the contents! Even the
> > > command line in some of the videos looked horrible .....FYI, this is
> due
> > > to
> > > the message...."You are now in Review Mode. Any choices selected will
> > > not be
> > > tracked" :)
> > >
> > > The previous software was an excellent in terms of audio that sync
> > > normally
> > > with the video frames.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/15/07, Farrukh Haroon <farrukhharoon@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I personally think IE has an excellent COD for both R/S and
> Security,
> > > > but their decision to go with Adobe was a big mistake. There was no
> > > > sync problem with Audio / Video with their previous software, it
> even
> > > > worked fine on Dail-up.
> > > >
> > > > Getting rid with Adobe and getting something better would solve all
> > > this.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Farrukh
> > > >
> > > > On 6/15/07, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > IE is certainly popular.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have IPExpert's workbook at the moment and I think it's a very
> > > > > good product. I may try a second vendor book later on for variety.
> > > > >
> > > > > Groupstudy is very helpful. I don't pay too much attention to
> > > > > sadikhov
> > > > as
> > > > > that place is full of posts about written dumps.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Erich Herzog" <erichherzog@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: <jslauer@hotmail.com>
> > > > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:52 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: training material question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Look at the groupstudy prof board, and sadikhov. When people
> > > > > > volunteer that they have passed, I think all that I have seen
> have
> > >
> > > > > > said they used IE.
> > > > > Not
> > > > > > to say other WBs are not good, thats just what the community
> seems
> > >
> > > > > > to
> > > > be
> > > > > > saying.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Erich
> > > > > > On 6/15/07, jslauer@hotmail.com <jslauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I Completely agree,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I've been more than satisfied with every product out there
> (with
> > > > > >> exception of that one) so I'm onboard with that statement.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Josh
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> From: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > > > >> To: <jslauer@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:20 PM
> > > > > >> Subject: RE: training material question
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Please don't take what I said wrong. What I'm saying is that
> > > > > >> people should really look into a vendor's "track record" and
> not
> > > > > >> get fooled
> > > > by
> > > > > >> fancy marketing and/or flashy websites when searching for CCIE
> > > > > training.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Good Luck!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > > > >> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > > >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > > > >> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: jslauer@hotmail.com [mailto:jslauer@hotmail.com]
> > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:51 PM
> > > > > >> To: anthony.sequeira@thomson.com; narbikk@gmail.com; Brian
> Dennis
> > > > > >> Cc: broyster9@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: training material question
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I would agree,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> counting CCIE's on a vendors website is not a very accurate
> > > metric
> > > > > >> considering many people use products from multiple vendors and
> > > give
> > > > > >> testimonials to multiple vendors. Personally, I used products
> > > from
> > > > most
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> the vendors. I only attended one training class
> (NetmasterClass)
> > > and
> > > > > >> they
> > > > > >> were the bomb. I had good success with all the products with
> > > > exception
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> one vendor who does not even exist anymore.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Josh
> > > > > >> CCIE 16024
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> From: <anthony.sequeira@thomson.com>
> > > > > >> To: <narbikk@gmail.com>; <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > > > >> Cc: <broyster9@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:41 PM
> > > > > >> Subject: RE: training material question
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Counting the peeps on the site is the last thing I would do
> > > when
> > > > > >> > choosing a vendor. In fact, I would never bother to do it.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > After passing using the materials of several vendors, I would
> > > > > >> recommend
> > > > > >> > the following:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > 1. Ask for a sample or tour of the product you are
> considering.
> > > > > >> Evaluate
> > > > > >> > the materials carefully.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > 2. Explore the Support options that are available with the
> > > vendor.
> > > > Do
> > > > > >> > they have chat, forums, 800 numbers, etc. Are these actually
> > > > > monitored
> > > > > >> > by qualified employees of that company?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Something else to consider is using multiple vendors. While
> > > vendors
> > > > > >> > certainly do not want to hear that recommendation, most here,
> > > > > >> including
> > > > > >> > myself, believe that some vendors excel at certain products
> > > > compared
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> > others.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Anthony J. Sequeira
> > > > > >> > #15626
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > P.S. I used products from InternetworkExpert and
> NetMasterClass
> > > and
> > > > > >> both
> > > > > >> > were excellent. Support was lacking at InternetworkExpert,
> but
> > > I
> > > > > >> believe
> > > > > >> > they have that solved now.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > >> Of
> > > > > >> > Narbik Kocharians
> > > > > >> > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:00 PM
> > > > > >> > To: Brian Dennis
> > > > > >> > Cc: Brent Royster; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: training material question
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Brian,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > You have a point, but what you fail to mention is the
> > > following:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Your statement does NOT reflect the truth; it fails to
> mention
> > > the
> > > > > >> > actual
> > > > > >> > number of passing students relative to the number of
> attendees,
> > > > which
> > > > > >> I
> > > > > >> > would surmise to be a low percentage.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > If Vendor-1 has 10 students and 3 pass, Vendor-1 has a
> passing
> > > > > >> > percentage of
> > > > > >> > 30 percent. But if Vendor-2 has 100 students and only 16
> pass,
> > > > > >> > Vendor-2's
> > > > > >> > ratio is 16 percent, that does not mean that Vendor-2 has a
> > > better
> > > > > >> > product,
> > > > > >> > from Vendor-2's perspective, it has 16 passing students
> versus
> > > 3,
> > > > but
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > truth of the matter is that Vendor-1 has a better percentage
> > > and
> > > > > >> > product.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On 6/14/07, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> You can get a good idea as to the number of people that are
> > > > passing
> > > > > >> >> using a particular vendor's products and classes by looking
> > > over
> > > > > >> their
> > > > > >> >> CCIE lists and customer feedback. As a side note any vendor
> > > that
> > > > > >> > tells
> > > > > >> >> you it doesn't matter how many people are using their
> products
> > > and
> > > > > >> >> classes to pass the CCIE lab won't have a long list of CCIEs
> > > on
> > > > > their
> > > > > >> >> website ;-)
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> --
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > > > >> >> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > > >> >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > > > > >> >> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > > > >> >> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
> On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > >> > Of
> > > > > >> >> Brent Royster
> > > > > >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:06 AM
> > > > > >> >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > >> >> Subject: training material question
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> I am interested in buying one of the class on demand options
> > > from
> > > > > >> >> multiple
> > > > > >> >> vendors. Its mentioned on the websites that these are like
> > > full
> > > > > >> >> bootcamps.
> > > > > >> >> has anyone who passed the lab used this material? If so how
> > > well
> > > > > >> > would
> > > > > >> >> you
> > > > > >> >> rate it?
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > --
> > > > > >> > Narbik Kocharians
> > > > > >> > CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > > > > >> > CCSI# 30832
> > > > > >> > Network Learning, Inc. (CCIE class Instructor)
> > > > > >> > www.ccbootcamp.com (CCIE Training)
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards!
> > > Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out
> of
> > > me!
> > > :p
> > >
> > >
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> --
> Muhammad Nasim
> Network Engineer
> SISCOM
> Saudi Arabia
>
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-- Narbik Kocharians CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) CCSI# 30832
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